TPP: An act of duplicity

[whell]

Originally Posted by Oerets

For there is little protection on intellectual rights or patients I've seen so far.

Barney

I wonder if that's another nod to China. In China, there is no equivalent concept of "what I create or possess is mine". If you've ever traveled to China, particularly on business, you may have had the unsettling experience of having your hotel room visited, your personal effects examined, and if you leave any electronics in the room, they will be opened, turned on, examined, and likely scanned or copied.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

I wonder if that's another nod to China...

China is not a part of the deal, though they may be part of the cause. The participating countries are the United States, Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam.

[Dondilion]

So we are going to make workers more vulnerable to protect banksters from
the new kid on the block...China.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

China is not a part of the deal, though they may be part of the cause. The participating countries are the United States, Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam.

I guess that was my point. In the next 50 years, the one commodity that I suspect will be taking it on the chin is intellectual property rights, and property rights in general. Sadly, with the rise of China, I suspect is will be easier to move their way on that issue rather than China moving toward protections for property and intellectual property rights.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

I guess that was my point. In the next 50 years, the one commodity that I suspect will be taking it on the chin is intellectual property rights, and property rights in general.

Well, there's popular sovereignty.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Well, there's popular sovereignty.

Oh shit!

Fast track was invented to give that short shrift.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Well, there's popular sovereignty.

On the decline here, and non-existent in China.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

On the decline here, and non-existent in China.

That would be...... ummm...... my point.

Hell, it's even an assault on national sovereignty.

TPP accelerates the rate of that loss, by a transfer of sovereignty to transnational corporations, at a time when we should be striving for the restoration of popular sovereignty.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by finnbow

China is not a part of the deal, though they may be part of the cause. The participating countries are the United States, Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam.

That Taiwan is not among the participants might just be a clear indication as to who/what this alliance is meant to address.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by nailer

That Taiwan is not among the participants might just be a clear indication as to who/what this alliance is meant to address.

China tho not a signatory is a major producer and soon to be the number one market. So by being the destination of outsourced jobs and pirated technologies with little redress, any deal made seems to me pointless.

Is it the simple fact China would refuse to comply even if a agreement was reached with them? Or industry in the other countries trying to squeeze the last bit of profit before China's rise to the top?

Barney