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Old 07-22-2014, 05:39 PM
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Why not?

There are a lot of black people living in the former slave and Jim Crow states.
Wage slavery made it all but impossible for many to leave.

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Old 07-22-2014, 06:37 PM
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Wage slavery made it all but impossible for many to leave.

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Still, quite a few did leave.

http://www.blackpast.org/aah/great-migration-1915-1960

And now that trend is reversing.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society...k-to-the-South
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:03 PM
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Why not?

There are a lot of black people living in the former slave and Jim Crow states.
Y'know TJ, I think we would agree that rancid butter though I may be, I'm typically on your side of the bread. That said, I gotta tell you that you're one of the most remarkable generators of false equivalencies I've run into in a long time. They're most often exceedingly entertaining...not this time though.
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:28 PM
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Unless and until you travel over there and have a look around (including the West Bank and just the Israeli side of the Gaza wall), you have little idea of what kind of humiliating, dehumanizing shit the Palestinians have put up with for the last 60 years. I met a retired Irish nurse on a bus in the West Bank last November who volunteers in a maternity clinic in Bethlehem. When she flies back to Ireland, authorities at Ben Gurion airport routinely detain her for just enough time to miss her flight home while telling her that they're doing so to dissuade her from helping Palestinians in any way. Before the barrier wall went up, I saw Israeli soldiers stop cars at checkpoints and make older Arab women stand out in the desert sun for hours just because they could.

Take a gander at a map of the Israeli settlements (many "illegal" under Israeli law, yet still supported by Israel) on the West Bank and consider that the Israelis have had an open invitation from the early 1950's to Jews from around the world to come there and settle.

Our news media gives us pretty much half of the story of what is really going on over there and you can guess which half it is.
I'm trying so hard to remember when any Jews flew any jetliners into any crowded American office buildings. You can pick and chose you favorite atrocities all you like Finn. It won't be changing my opinions on any of this. I will not question anything that Israeli Jews chose to do to protect themselves from the annihilation promised them by their poor victimized neighbors and the terrorists they support.
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:33 PM
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:34 PM
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I'm trying so hard to remember when any Jews flew any jetliners into any crowded American office buildings. You can pick and chose you favorite atrocities all you like Finn. It won't be changing my opinions on any of this. I will not question anything that Israeli Jews chose to do to protect themselves from the annihilation promised them by their poor victimized neighbors and the terrorists they support.
What was that you were saying about false equivalences?

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Old 07-22-2014, 09:42 PM
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Ben Gurion is closed to US airlines due to an FAA ruling that it's not safe. A rocket from the Gaza Strip hit a house one mile from the airport.
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:58 PM
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What was that you were saying about false equivalences?

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No false equvalency there. Finn decided to reel off a list of Jew atrocities. All I did was produce evidence to support the fact that Jew atrocities just don't measure up. That they're nowhere near the equivalent of terrorist atrocities.

I can't help that you don't understand the concept of a false equivalency.

A false equivalency occurs when its suggested that two totally different things are equivalent.

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Old 07-23-2014, 06:45 AM
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Old 07-23-2014, 06:47 AM
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No false equvalency there. Finn decided to reel off a list of Jew atrocities. All I did was produce evidence to support the fact that Jew atrocities just don't measure up. That they're nowhere near the equivalent of terrorist atrocities.

I can't help that you don't understand the concept of a false equivalency.

A false equivalency occurs when its suggested that two totally different things are equivalent.
An occupation and subjugation of a people over decades is different in kind than a terrorist act.

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