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12-14-2010, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by djv8ga
This is 100% Obama's fault. His solid support of rogue countries has been a green light to become aggressive. The guy is a terrorist at heart.
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I would argue that it was the policies of George .W. Bush which set back negotiations with North Korea so dramatically.
We've come a long way from Clintons Secretary of State visiting the country as an honoured guest to Bushs rhetoric about the 'Axis of Evil'.
It was George Bush who undid all of the Clintons administrations work on this... Against the wishes of the South Koreans at the time, I might add.
When relations are so severed, such aggresive actions can hardly be punished at all.
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12-14-2010, 06:04 PM
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I would argue that it was the policies of George .W. Bush which set back negotiations with North Korea so dramatically.
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nothing to argue that is a fact
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12-15-2010, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Brother_Karl
I would argue that it was the policies of George .W. Bush which set back negotiations with North Korea so dramatically.
We've come a long way from Clintons Secretary of State visiting the country as an honoured guest to Bushs rhetoric about the 'Axis of Evil'.
It was George Bush who undid all of the Clintons administrations work on this... Against the wishes of the South Koreans at the time, I might add.
When relations are so severed, such aggresive actions can hardly be punished at all.
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Yep.
Dave
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12-15-2010, 05:55 AM
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Boosch did it, huh?
The last time I looked, there was a new sheriff in town. And the Obama Administration has had two years to establish a diplomatic dichotomy with Krazy Kim, but he's worse now than he's ever been.
Besides, he's just a wild card our bankers are holding, although I suspect that he may be just a little TOO wild for even their tastes.
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12-15-2010, 06:58 AM
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AKA Sister Mary JJ
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Originally Posted by Charles
Boosch did it, huh?
The last time I looked, there was a new sheriff in town. And the Obama Administration has had two years to establish a diplomatic dichotomy with Krazy Kim, but he's worse now than he's ever been.
Besides, he's just a wild card our bankers are holding, although I suspect that he may be just a little TOO wild for even their tastes.
Chas
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And now it looks like his son may follow him in office.
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12-15-2010, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles
Boosch did it, huh?
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yes, pretty much.
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12-15-2010, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JJIII
And now it looks like his son may follow him in office.
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It looks like Twinkies may work as a secret weapon against the new supreme ruler.'
I've read that people have gone to prison for setting a cup of coffee down on a picture of the old man. Just think how dangerous fat jokes are going to be now.
Regards,
D-Ray
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12-15-2010, 08:04 AM
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Possibly admin. Maybe ;)
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NK was already trying to re-milk things when Clinton was still in office. Bush Bush Bush Bush, your boy's off the hook huh? I see it's working really well.
Kimberly, as the hispanic boy I know would say, he's 30-30
Pete
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12-15-2010, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles
The last time I looked, there was a new sheriff in town. And the Obama Administration has had two years to establish a diplomatic dichotomy with Krazy Kim, but he's worse now than he's ever been.
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True. But that doesnt negate the harm that Bush did to the situation. After Bush, the North Koreans trust in America plummeted. You can not underplay that and then accuse me of being biased.
Djv8ga said that the recent military actvities of NK were 100% Obamas fault. I hope you can see that this is not the case.
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
NK was already trying to re-milk things when Clinton was still in office.
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I dont think that anyone would say that relations between North Korea and the United States were harmonious during the Clinton era. I simply said that Bush, against the wishes of the South Koreans, ruined all the work that Clinton did to create a lasting peace in that region.
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Besides, he's just a wild card our bankers are holding, although I suspect that he may be just a little TOO wild for even their tastes.
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I dont know what you're talking about. I am completely lost. Please explain?
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Originally Posted by JJIII
And now it looks like his son may follow him in office.
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Gotta love dynastic successions.
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12-16-2010, 06:13 AM
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Karl,
I was speaking of China.
Chas
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