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07-14-2013, 12:31 PM
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Having not watched or listened to TV coverage of the trial, I'm content to defer to those in the jury. They decided quickly and unanimously based upon the evidence presented. Who am I to second guess, particularly when I simply don't give a shit?
Long ago, I came to the realization that the thing I dislike most is when people try to manipulate me. The coverage of this trial was nothing other than an attempt to manipulate the public to serve the vested political interests of partisans and the media itself.
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I hear ya. And, I can readily see how the usual suspect tried to use this case.............on both sides. I also understand why we ended up with Zimmerman walking; There is a shadow of doubt over who initiated the altercation and no witnesses to confirm or deny Zims testimony.....So they had to let him go. He is free, but far from innocent IMHO.
I believe this case escalated onto the national stage because it is more about SYG. I also believe it demonstrates the problems inherent in SYG.
Are we now a nation wherein a potentially overzealous neighborhood watch is the law, Pat?
Dave
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07-14-2013, 12:32 PM
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ya sure you dont wanna come visit the "cup"
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Last I checked, the "cup" was in Los Angeles.
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07-14-2013, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex E.
You could not be more wrong, Eric.
We are sick of little, sawed off punks running their mouths until they get what they are asking for. Then for them to grab their guns, kill people and get away with it.
If the cure to this problem is to remove guns then so be it. I'm am not seeing enough responsible firearms owners doing their part here. Instead of rallying behind some vigilante, it's their duty to shun such behavior and denounce it.
In all honesty, more of this stuff is just going to force gun control. Is that what you are really wanting, to martyr yourself in a battle that was forced by the very people who say they are being attacked?
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And, there we have it. Thanks, Paul.
Eric, you are your own worst enemy.
Dave
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07-14-2013, 12:34 PM
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You know, I am getting better and better with the idea of not visiting the US at all anymore.
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I don't blame you at all. This place has gone mad. Not quite completely mad, just yet, but not far from it.
Dave
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07-14-2013, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex E.
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oh no no no no.
CA. and i mean all of it goes with you fellas.
we could balance the federal budget instantly.
oh yeah enjoy your $60.00 loaves of bread.
we could also sell CA. to the Chinese.
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07-14-2013, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Having not watched or listened to TV coverage of the trial, I'm content to defer to those in the jury. They decided quickly and unanimously based upon the evidence presented. Who am I to second guess, particularly when I simply don't give a shit?
Long ago, I came to the realization that the thing I dislike most is when people try to manipulate me. The coverage of this trial was nothing other than an attempt to manipulate the public to serve the vested political interests of partisans and the media itself.
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I really can't understand your view on this. To me, the media has got fuck all to do with it.
A young black man is dead because he was:
1) Black
2) Out for a walk
A paranoid, gun toting, vigilante is responsible for his death. The US judicial system lets him off. I care, and I don't even live in the country.
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07-14-2013, 12:40 PM
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Indeed! Just yesterday my cousin was proposing expanding that idea from Washington to Tierra Del Fuego.
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07-14-2013, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by stereocuuple
oh no no no no.
CA. and i mean all of it goes with you fellas.
we could balance the federal budget instantly.
oh yeah enjoy your $60.00 loaves of bread.
we could also sell CA. to the Chinese.
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Naw, at most the northern part
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07-14-2013, 12:41 PM
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you need serious help. i mean this i really think you are very mentally ill.
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No, I'm just tired of people hiding behind religion. And using the name of Christ to justify things that are far from Christ-like. This is the reason I'll have nothing to do with organized religion or politicians who use it to manipulate people.
I don't expect you to understand that, Eric.
Dave
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07-14-2013, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigerik
I really can't understand your view on this. To me, the media has got fuck all to do with it.
A young black man is dead because he was:
1) Black
2) Out for a walk
A paranoid, gun toting, vigilante is responsible for his death. The US judicial system lets him off. I care, and I don't even live in the country.
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Thank you.
Dave
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