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02-03-2014, 05:52 PM
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Tar sand oil is crap oil. Other than using things made of plastic, no.
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We need lots of crap oil as ingredients for thousands of products we use daily.
It's thoroughly amazing how many things have petroleum in them. Our world population would be cut by 3/4 without it's exploitation.
Not as thats a bad thing. Oil allowed this planet to overpopulate to the extent all resources are overextended.
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02-03-2014, 06:56 PM
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Tar sand oil is crap oil. Other than using things made of plastic, no.
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That's not true. It too can be refined into gasoline, heating oil, etc., though the process is certainly more complex and expensive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_san...n_and_refining
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I would say at this point even a few thousand well paying jobs that are long term would help our economy. Hopefully the technology in autos will continue to improve where we can reduce our reliance on oil. Finnbow's right the Canadians are not going to stop.
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02-03-2014, 11:00 AM
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I was just talking my own personal view of things, I realize it isn't popular with hardly anybody.
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The irony is that Petro Canada has only a small stake in the tar sands, the majority of companies operating there are American. Regardless if the keystone is not completed it will run to the pacific coast under a different name and the oil will go to China.
My understanding is that the extraction process has undergone improvements that make it about par with fracking - both leave a lot of polluted water to deal with.
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02-03-2014, 12:04 PM
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I for one think it will happen. But know once built the jobs will be few and far between. Also feel the oil will go to the highest bidder. Only the foolish believe the USA will benefit anymore then lets say China.
Plus gave up a long time ago the human race would get off the oil teat and quit killing the planet. The oil companies know this and that is why plans are in place to reap profits from the coming catastrophe. Like buying up water rights...
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02-03-2014, 12:24 PM
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I for one think it will happen. But know once built the jobs will be few and far between. Also feel the oil will go to the highest bidder. Only the foolish believe the USA will benefit anymore then lets say China.
Plus gave up a long time ago the human race would get off the oil teat and quit killing the planet. The oil companies know this and that is why plans are in place to reap profits from the coming catastrophe. Like buying up water rights...
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While I understand your sentiments (particularly in the 2nd paragraph), oil is a fungible resource. It really doesn't matter who gets the oil coming from these tar sands, just that it enters the world market. Also, American refinery jobs (as well as pipeline maintenance and operation) will be long-lasting, unlike the pipeline workers.
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I for one think it will happen. But know once built the jobs will be few and far between. Also feel the oil will go to the highest bidder. Only the foolish believe the USA will benefit anymore then lets say
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I believe it was stated on the evening new that the pipeline will realize a total of 30 permanent jobs once all is said and done.
Wonder how may people lost their property over this thing.
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i believe it was stated on the evening new that the pipeline will realize a total of 30 permanent jobs once all is said and done.
Wonder how may people lost their property over this thing.
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02-03-2014, 01:30 PM
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Interestingly, the study states that transporting the oil by rail vs. pipeline would increase greenhouse emissions by 28 -42%.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...peline-report/
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