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Old 02-05-2015, 07:15 PM
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I think its just great that we've finally decided that we're at least thinking about honoring our treaty with Ukraine.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/02/wo...rces.html?_r=0

I guess we finally figured out that Poroshenko might have had a point when he observed that he couldn't win a war against Russia with the blankets we've been sending them.
This ain't an easy decision. Here's a good article on the subject:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign...ure-on-Ukraine
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I've said before, not backing our promises to Ukraine sure gives rogue states a boost.

Let alone China. It isn't a vacuum.

The whole Aspergers thing, you conspiracy minded folks should note, it's blatant PSYOPs.

In the face of a real fight Russia would flatten Ukraine and both sides know it. The Ukraine's only real hope is the west, and good luck with that. Unless all those lefties listen to one of their bosses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnJOsOzpz4k

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I guess we want to test Russia resolve.
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Old 02-05-2015, 07:26 PM
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I've said before, not backing our promises to Ukraine sure gives rogue states a boost.
What promises? We have no treaty obligations with Ukraine.
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Don I kinda see why Putins doing it, and I really do think he cares for Russias greatness in his fashion, but why couldn't he have stopped with the Crimea? Is it domestic?

Finn way too convenient. Though I suppose it shows other actors that we can't be trusted, to 'get it in writing'.

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Jeez I miss talking with you guys. Don't worry though Finn, no hugs lol!

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Finn way too convenient. Though I suppose it shows other actors that we can't be trusted, to 'get it in writing'.

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What promises? We have no treaty obligations with Ukraine.
They treaty that whell negotiated.

Actually, there is a treaty of sorts, the Butapest Memorandum, but it doesn't cover the current situation or provide for military assistance.

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