Europe is at War

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

Its also fertile recruiting ground for ISIS. That's why the "homegrown" comment is questionable, IMHO.

According to RT, ISIS has claimed responsibility.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by whell

Its also fertile recruiting ground for ISIS. That's why the "homegrown" comment is questionable, IMHO.

These guys were born in the EU. WTF does homegrown mean to you?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by whell

You're already drawn the conclusion that this was a lone whack job (or small band of whack jobs) and not an orchestrated attack? Based on what evidence?

I didnt say anything of the fucking sort about the size of the organization responsible. Don't make shit up.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I didnt say anything of the fucking sort about the size of the organization responsible. Don't make shit up.

I don't "make shit up", but I did read your post. You referred to today's attack being executed by "homegrown terrorists". This would preclude coordination by, for example, ISIS, who is now claiming responsibility.

I simply wondered where you got the information that prompted you to label the attackers as "homegrown terrorists".

[mystic]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

It's what vermin do.

But perhaps we should be trying to understand how bitter they are to be growing up in the ugly and oppressive world of France, Belgium, the Netherlands, etc., rather than in the paradise of their Middle East homeland

A helluva lot of these things are Maghreb, born in or (more likely) descended from persons born in north Africa, esp. Algiers and Tunis.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

It's what vermin do.

The EU opens it's borders to provide sanctuary to millions of refugees and this is how a bunch of homegrown terrorists show their gratitude. The people doing this shit are not sneaking into Europe to slaughter people, they were born in Europe.

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Hello! Why would home grown terrorists be pleased that those escaping their parent group, IS, are being aided by Europe? That makes no sense.

You need to rethink your position, you are starting from a false assumption.

[Pio1980]

So, if McVeigh's philosophical inspiration originated with a Brit or Canadian fringe radical Christian, he wouldn't be "home-grown"?

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[whell]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

So, if McVeigh's philosophical inspiration originated with a Brit or Canadian fringe radical Christian, he wouldn't be "home-grown"?

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If he was aided / supported by an external organization or gov't, the wouldn't fit the definition of domestic or "homegrown" terrorist.

[Pio1980]

Btw, Belgium has the most lax arms regulation in Europe, you go there to get any amount of almost anything you want.

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[whell]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Btw, Belgium has the most lax arms regulation in Europe, you go there to get any amount of almost anything you want.

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Not sure what that means in the context of this discussion. Also, Belgium isn't particularly plagued by gun violence, today's events not withstanding.

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