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10-02-2011, 04:03 PM
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10-02-2011, 04:07 PM
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Have you seen the inane remarks by some of these kids when interviewed? They do not have a coherent purpose for their protests other than some vague meanderings denigrating corporate America. Also, notice the branded corporate merchandise they wear and their use of corporate made technology like cell phones, laptops, and Ipads. It must be nice to have government or parents pick up the tab for protesting. Then, of course, you have the professional protesting contingent. They're the older folks that look like they dropped out of 1960s Berkeley.
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About time folks took to the streets. Good kids, I am proud of them.
BTW, your posts is so screwed up on so many levels that I am not even going to address it.
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10-02-2011, 06:11 PM
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There's a difference between the products you identified and the activity happening on wall street. The products identified were the results of companies actually producing something. Wall street is overpopulated with leeches who take a cut from those who are actually adding value to the economy.
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You do not see money as a product? There is a price for money and there always has been. Whether or not the cost is currently too high or that some have gamed the system is a different question. What alternative corporate finance model do you prefer?
This is from the OccupyWallStreet web site:
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As members of the 99 percent, we occupy Wall Street as a symbolic gesture of our discontent with the current economic and political climate and as an example of a better world to come.
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So I assume that they are targeting the top 1%, but are myopic to all the positives that come from Wall Street and the diversity of those invested in Wall Street. One can no longer make the sophomoric assumption that Wall Street is only the playground of proverbial fat cats. Those products and all their precursors were likely financed by Wall Street somewhere along their manufacturing trajectory. Does the system always work perfectly? No. But aside from outright government financing, which has recently failed even in the narrow arena of green energy, there is no viable alternative to Wall Street.
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10-02-2011, 06:23 PM
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Stay tuned...More to come. They have groups in every major city.
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10-02-2011, 06:26 PM
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The police also arrested bystanders who were not protesting but simply happened to be in the area, frankly the police behaviour is suspect.
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That is always a possibility even when you attempt to have a peaceful protest. The police are always going to be on edge and things can escalate rapidly. I do not think I've seen U.S. police beating on protesters since the 1960s.
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10-02-2011, 06:36 PM
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From Adbusters call for occupation:
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Alright you 90,000 redeemers, rebels and radicals out there,
A worldwide shift in revolutionary tactics is underway right now that bodes well for the future. The spirit of this fresh tactic, a fusion of Tahrir with the acampadas of Spain, is captured in this quote:
"The antiglobalization movement was the first step on the road. Back then our model was to attack the system like a pack of wolves. There was an alpha male, a wolf who led the pack, and those who followed behind. Now the model has evolved. Today we are one big swarm of people."
— Raimundo Viejo, Pompeu Fabra University
Barcelona, Spain
The beauty of this new formula, and what makes this novel tactic exciting, is its pragmatic simplicity: we talk to each other in various physical gatherings and virtual people's assemblies … we zero in on what our one demand will be, a demand that awakens the imagination and, if achieved, would propel us toward the radical democracy of the future … and then we go out and seize a square of singular symbolic significance and put our asses on the line to make it happen.
The time has come to deploy this emerging stratagem against the greatest corrupter of our democracy: Wall Street, the financial Gomorrah of America.
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If you read the above stated goals and have knowledge of other older protest movements, you should understand that little has changed in the ridiculous call for some Utopian society. Now, who's funding the infrastructure of this nascent political movement? The comparisons with the protests of the 2011 Middle East protests is just absurd.
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10-02-2011, 06:40 PM
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Everyone has their own ridiculous vision of Utopia. Are you telling me you have never wondered about the sanity of some of our friends on the right?
Dave
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10-02-2011, 06:57 PM
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Everyone has their own ridiculous vision of Utopia. Are you telling me you have never wondered about the sanity of some of our friends on the right?
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No, I just pointed out in another thread that Falwell's dementia started at least in the early eighties. There are whack jobs on both sides. What exactly do the protesters want? Greater representation? A leader less beholden to Wall Street than Obama? Remember he set records for Wall Street donations. Who is funding this movement?
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10-02-2011, 06:59 PM
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No, I just pointed out in another thread that Falwell's dementia started at least in the early eighties. There are whack jobs on both sides. What exactly do the protesters want? Greater representation? A leader less beholden to Wall Street than Obama? Remember he set records for Wall Street donations. Who is funding this movement?
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AFAIK, it's Michael Moore. And yes, the point is leadership less beholden to Wall Street than Obama, who is slightly less beholden than any of the goons over at the GOP. Who seem to like to being dominated and led around on a dog leash by Wall Street.
Dave
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10-02-2011, 06:59 PM
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No, I just pointed out in another thread that Falwell's dementia started at least in the early eighties. There are whack jobs on both sides. What exactly do the protesters want? Greater representation? A leader less beholden to Wall Street than Obama? Remember he set records for Wall Street donations. Who is funding this movement?
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It seems you answered your own question.
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