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Old 06-06-2016, 06:00 AM
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How many votes has Trump lost the last two weeks?

I have been very open to voting for TRump but the last two weeks he has... well frankly, disgusted me. I know I am not alone having talking to several people who have shifted their view of Donald. I even heard this on TV just now.

He's like the kid who refuses to "grow up."

Hillary cannot win or lose this election. She is a lump. One of the softest candidates the DEM's have ever run. This election is Donald's to win or lose. He has screwed up big time by not making the turn all his reasoned supporters had expected.

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Old 06-06-2016, 06:05 AM
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another interesting note is that women, older affluent women, were talking about Hill and how they could not respect a women who put up with Bill and all his affairs over the years. This surprised me. These were Bush republicans who identify and have a crush on Laura Bush.
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Old 06-06-2016, 09:01 AM
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another interesting note is that women, older affluent women, were talking about Hill and how they could not respect a women who put up with Bill and all his affairs over the years. This surprised me. These were Bush republicans who identify and have a crush on Laura Bush.
Those are Republican women so of course they probably don't want to vote for Hillary.
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Old 06-06-2016, 09:08 AM
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another interesting note is that women, older affluent women, were talking about Hill and how they could not respect a women who put up with Bill and all his affairs over the years. This surprised me. These were Bush republicans who identify and have a crush on Laura Bush.
Laura Bush is a lady. She is also very attractive. And Republican. Why the surprise?
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Old 06-06-2016, 09:19 AM
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Laura Bush is a lady. She is also very attractive. And Republican. Why the surprise?
She was pretty cute back in High School:



When she killed that Dude.

http://www.rawstory.com/2010/04/laur...friends-death/
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Old 06-06-2016, 06:41 AM
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Well, I was ever so close to voting for him, and then Paul Ryan endorsed him. That was it for me.
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Old 06-06-2016, 08:04 AM
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Well, I was ever so close to voting for him, and then Paul Ryan endorsed him. That was it for me.
The Ryan endorsement is troubling for me too.

Ryans plans for Social Security, and Medicare would put millions of future senior citizens in the position of being unable to afford adequate medical care at a time in their lives when they are most likely to need it.

Ryan is so bad, that if he were the Republican nominee, I would vote for Hillary over him.
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Old 06-06-2016, 08:53 AM
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The Ryan endorsement is troubling for me too.

Ryans plans for Social Security, and Medicare would put millions of future senior citizens in the position of being unable to afford adequate medical care at a time in their lives when they are most likely to need it.

Ryan is so bad, that if he were the Republican nominee, I would vote for Hillary over him.
Trump has already stated that cuts to SS are off the table.

Equally troubling to me, side by side with the calls to cut SS, are the recent calls to expand it, lead by our debtor in chief Obama.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...essives-223806

Politics as usual - use entitlement programs as nothing more that a basis to buy / sell votes.
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Old 06-06-2016, 08:59 AM
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Trump has already stated that cuts to SS are off the table.
Good for him. Hope he hangs tough with that.

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Equally troubling to me, side by side with the calls to cut SS, are the recent calls to expand it, lead by our debtor in chief Obama.
They need to be expanded to take up the slack due to the decimation of defined benefit pensions perpetrated by the private sector.
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Old 06-06-2016, 09:12 AM
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They need to be expanded to take up the slack due to the decimation of defined benefit pensions perpetrated by the private sector.
While I don't disagree that the decline of defined benefit plans complicate the scenario of retirement funding, I don't agree that SS is THE only solution.

The current SS system has been looted by the Fed Gov't already to the tune of a $2.7 trillion Special Issues of the Treasury. The gov't willingness and ability to repay that "IOU" is suspect. I would not want to put any additional funds in the hands of the current case of criminals and idiots if Congress where it would be subject to similar raids.
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