Why Trumps Sounds So Much Like McCarthy

donquixote99 · #1 06-19-2016, 04:09 PM

I was highly struck by the McCarthy-esque overtones in the after-Orlando speech. There was, first and last, the relentless focus on the 'outsider enemy:' for Trump, "Radical Islam," for McCarthy, "International Communism." Late in the speech, Trump actually said we need to 'do with Islamic terrorism like we did Communism.'

But there was more, and worse. The innuendo saying that the President and others are at least 'soft on Islamism' corresponds closely to McCarthy's claims that state department officials, and even high officials such as General Marshall, were secretly aiding Communism. And his insistence that the Islamic community here would have to 'turn in' radical Islamists or face 'big consequences' bears a close and sinister resemblance to the anti-communist workings of the House Un-American Activities Committee, which demanded that persons called before it 'name names' or be blacklisted as Communist sympathizers.

Turns out all this is not mere coincidence. Trump for years worked in close partnership with McCarthy's own chief legal strategist, lawyer Ray Cohn. Article below has more on Cohn's modus operandi, and the Cohn-Trump relationship.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...thy-213799?o=0

icenine · #2 06-19-2016, 06:32 PM

Both Trump (and McCarthy) are masters of the Big Lie. Keep telling lies so fast and furious that no one stops to examine the truth. But like a pyramid scheme it fails.
Trump will fail to. I am hoping the "Have you no decency" moment occurs before the election so that Americans will see what he really is.

The thing that scares me is that McCarthy was pointing to supposed traitors to the American government. Trump is directing his assault of lies at the actual American system of democracy in that he is proclaiming the illegitimacy of it all. That is the big difference between the late 1940s-early 1950s and today. I am in no way discounting the evil of what McCarthy represented.

merrylander · #3 06-20-2016, 06:10 AM

Maybe the Donald would like us to round up all Muslim Americans and put them in internment camps like we did with the Japanese Americans - just another big blot in our copybook.

ZeroJunk · #4 06-20-2016, 06:38 AM

He is exactly right. The enemy is radical Islam. A whole lot more so than communist ever were. Don't remember communist killing 49 people in a night club. Keep up the PC crap until you or one of your loved ones are dead.

68custom · #5 06-20-2016, 07:15 AM

The words Islamic terrorists strikes so much fear. What about sandy hook and Aurora? No Islamic involvement there but still a body count.
Terrorists come in many flavors.

Rajoo · #6 06-20-2016, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 68custom

The words Islamic terrorists strikes so much fear. What about sandy hook and Aurora? No Islamic involvement there but still a body count.
Terrorists come in many flavors.

It's what their ringmasters told them to do, please do not confuse them with facts yet. After all 70% of Americans are for gun control, so they need a fear angle to subvert democracy.

Senate will vote down new gun laws today because of an intensity gap that favors the NRA

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...b92a22d20360d/

ZeroJunk · #7 06-20-2016, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 68custom

The words Islamic terrorists strikes so much fear. What about sandy hook and Aurora? No Islamic involvement there but still a body count.
Terrorists come in many flavors.

That is the classic lefty response to everything. Somebody else did it.

Carry it on back to Cain I suppose.

merrylander · #8 06-20-2016, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

That is the classic lefty response to everything. Somebody else did it.

Carry it on back to Cain I suppose.

WTF are you mumbling on about - that response make no sense.

ZeroJunk · #9 06-20-2016, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander

WTF are you mumbling on about - that response make no sense.

You have a group of people whose religion if carried to the extreme instructs them to kill infidels.

So, making a comparison to some person who kills from some sort of insanity to mitigate the act of an ISIS supporter is left wing bullshit.

finnbow · #10 06-20-2016, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

You have a group of people whose religion if carried to the extreme instructs them to kill infidels.

So, making a comparison to some person who kills from some sort of insanity to mitigate the act of an ISIS supporter is left wing bullshit.

If a Christian wacko shoots up an abortion clinic in Colorado Springs, he did it because of a mental illness. If a Muslim does something similar, it's because of his religion. Can't have it both ways.