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Old 07-29-2013, 11:13 AM
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Right, less regulation would solve this problem and keep it from happening!

Try that on your kids and see how well it works!

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Old 07-29-2013, 12:26 PM
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Pretty much the same stuff we heard about a couple years ago. When the regulatory environment is such that underwater drilling activity / equipment gets pushed 55 miles off shore, it severely complicates the process and makes recovery from accidents / malfunctions that much more complicated.

Mother nature releases this type of gas into the environment periodically all by herself, as we saw in this thread: http://www.politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=6044 The biggest difference between the two scenarios is that their no BP or Halliburton attached to mother nature's release, so there's no one for the lawyers to sue to the Dems to haul before some stupid committee to testify.
Did you actually read the link posted in the thread you are referencing, Mike?

There's nothing natural about the Artic becoming ice free during the summer.
Check out the thread "Greenland is Melting" in this forum.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:12 PM
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One of the reasons that drilling platforms are that far out is to minimize the contamination that occurs from washing ashore. Yes oil leaks minimally all the time along with other contaminants and pollutants and they wash ashore, and this will cause major damage to the land and marine life.

So sure, bring the wells in but make sure people have abandoned the shore and kiss marine life in that area good bye and yes, Drill baby Drill.
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One of the reasons that drilling platforms are that far out is to minimize the contamination that occurs from washing ashore. Yes oil leaks minimally all the time along with other contaminants and pollutants and they wash ashore, and this will cause major damage to the land and marine life.

So sure, bring the wells in but make sure people have abandoned the shore and kiss marine life in that area good bye and yes, Drill baby Drill.
Indeed. An oft-cited fundamental truism of environmental science is "the best solution to pollution is dilution."
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:13 PM
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Indeed. An oft-cited fundamental truism of environmental science is "the best solution to pollution is dilution."
Interesting you say that. One of my prof's in Grad school often used to say that the only answer to pollution is "don't do it". Avoidance, control or cleanup, in that order in terms of cost. In case of off shore drilling, a fourth option; keep it out of sight and depend on dilution and evaporation?
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:07 PM
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Indeed. An oft-cited fundamental truism of environmental science is "the best solution to pollution is dilution."
Like putting ice cubes in Buffalo Trace? Works for me.

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Old 07-30-2013, 08:42 AM
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The Swiss will put you on trial if you drill and cause earthquakes.

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Old 07-30-2013, 11:55 AM
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The problem is there's no such thing as foolproof. As long as we need oil spills will happen.

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There's nothing natural about the Artic becoming ice free during the summer.
Check out the thread "Greenland is Melting" in this forum.
Was there anything natural about it any of the other times it's happened?
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Was there anything natural about it any of the other times it's happened?
This warming trend is the first where we are having an impact.
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