You Call This A Middle Class?

[Samm]

Originally Posted by hillbilly

I know what you saying, but it's different today. Today, if the rich can't make what they want then they simply send work offshore, and that costs us even more jobs. While I don't agree it is fair practice, one cannot deny they have us by the balls so to speak. Cut in to their earnings by demanding high wages, harsh EPA regulations, or collecting more taxes from them and they just close shop in the US knowing they can still win the game.

You are so right. I say screw the TPP there should be increased taxation on products imported by US owned corporations. If we could find an economist that wasn't bought off we could come up with some numbers that would not longer make it profitable to move the manufacturing jobs offshore.
Where we have lost a lot of our leverage is that we are not the consumers that we used to be when the economy was still able to be covered up as recovering.

[bobabode]

Increased tariffs? Are you serious? That sounds iike you've got some sort of pro union jibber jabber bouncing around in that skull of yours.

Are you one of those protectionist cheese eating surrender monkeys Samm?

[BlueStreak]

When you hear a Conservative bloviating about the "free market" today, he is either a fool who doesn't realize it's the so-called "free market" that putting downward pressure on his wages, or a wannabe elitist tyrant that dreams of himself building great personal wealth on the backs of wage slaves.

Either way, it's nothing but bullshit. And, if you think we have problems now, just let these people have their way. Because it's nothing more than what we had prior to the last labor movement. Which was not all it's cracked up to be and at times, turned bloody.

Want to repeat history? Just keep this up.

Dave

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

When you hear a Conservative bloviating about the "free market" today, he is either a fool who doesn't realize it's the so-called "free market" that putting downward pressure on his wages, or a wannabe elitist tyrant that dreams of himself building great personal wealth on the backs of wage slaves.

Either way, it's nothing but bullshit. And, if you think we have problems now, just let these people have their way. Because it's nothing more than what we had prior to the last labor movement. Which was not all it's cracked up to be and at times, turned bloody.

Want to repeat history? Just keep this up.

Dave

Question Dave Whats the last labor movement? Are you talking about the Union labor wars?

[BlueStreak]

Yes. That's right. And all lot of that was war waged AGAINST unionization. You think they were unprovoked and unwarranted? I grew up around people who were there. And if you think they had no reason, you're an ignoramus that deserves to get punched in the mouth.

Dave

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Yes. That's right. And all lot of that was war waged AGAINST unionization. You think they were unprovoked and unwarranted? I grew up around people who were there. And if you think they had no reason, you're an ignoramus that deserves to get punched in the mouth.

Dave

what the fuck lol I asked a question as to what and when, not right or wrong.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

what the fuck lol I asked a question as to what and when, not right or wrong.

Meh, you've made your position clear about unions on more than one occasion. What the fuck is right. You work in the trades and have your head so far up your ass, I can see ya staring back from behind your tonsils.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Meh, you've made your position clear about unions on more than one occasion. What the fuck is right. You work in the trades and have your head so far up your ass, I can see ya staring back from behind your tonsils.

LMAO!!!!

Dave

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Meh, you've made your position clear about unions on more than one occasion. What the fuck is right. You work in the trades and have your head so far up your ass, I can see ya staring back from behind your tonsils.

Thats because the Unions of yesteryear were good for the worker.
Today their just a piece of shit job killing organization. That cripple states and cities driving them to bankruptcy. All the while fucking there members for political power.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Thats because the Unions of yesteryear were good for the worker.
Today their just a piece of shit job killing organization. That cripple states and cities driving them to bankruptcy. All the while fucking there members for political power.

Sure they are sonny, sure they are. <rolls eyes>

Only in the wingnuttery that is populated by the likes of Alito and the rest of that idiotic rogues gallery that is Faux news.

The whole idea of forming a union is for "political" power and clout for their members benefit. Without the trade union's pressure on the 'man' you wouldn't be making shit in your chosen profession. Get a grip man.