Upset about a possible ban on junk food?

[BlueStreak]

Check this out..............

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...in?sc=fb&cc=fp

Imagine cops coming to round up your pets.

Dave

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Check this out..............

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...in?sc=fb&cc=fp

Imagine cops coming to round up your pets.

Dave

Don't they do that here already?

If you don't pay a fee and get a tag the dog gets picked up. If you are fast enough you can go to the pound and bail it out, pay a fine and keep your friend. If you don't get there in time....

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by JJIII

Don't they do that here already?

If you don't pay a fee and get a tag the dog gets picked up. If you are fast enough you can go to the pound and bail it out, pay a fine and keep your friend. If you don't get there in time....

No, they don't. As a matter of fact, people in this country get away with beating, starving, and abusing animals for far too long before anyone does anything.

Why?

Because the animal is their property.

Dave

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

No, they don't. As a matter of fact, people in this country get away with beating, starving, and abusing animals for far too long before anyone does anything.

Why?

Because the animal is their property.

Dave

People get away with animal abuse because other people put a low priority on it. There are laws that exist against abuse but somebody has to notify the proper authorities.

Did you follow the link from the OP?

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

No, they don't. As a matter of fact, people in this country get away with beating, starving, and abusing animals for far too long before anyone does anything.

Why?

Because the animal is their property.

Dave

That is a valid point.

[merrylander]

Our fab five feral cats are marked and if animal control picks them up the just turn them lose. They would like me to tag them but when I sent in the money the last time they refused saying they needed rabies shots. You catch them and I will pay for the shots, but I am not going to trap them, the last time was too traumatic for the cats. Maybe our county is more humane? When the neighbour said she wanted to kill them they politely informed her she would go to jail.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Our fab five feral cats are marked and if animal control picks them up the just turn them lose. They would like me to tag them but when I sent in the money the last time they refused saying they needed rabies shots. You catch them and I will pay for the shots, but I am not going to trap them, the last time was too traumatic for the cats. Maybe our county is more humane? When the neighbour said she wanted to kill them they politely informed her she would go to jail.

The local cops around here don't mess with critters...except for pit bulls.

If you have one of those, they'll stop by your house daily and threaten to put you in jail until you finally get rid of it.

But we have pretty good cops. They ignore as much trouble as they possibly can.

Chas

[flacaltenn]

Dave:

We're not so far behind those dictators.. Notice that the coverage is from the "INdia Times".. Even democracies like her are wondering what we are doing..

http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...es-slave-trade

LOS ANGELES: They call it the "People's Republic of San Francisco", but judging by latest piece of landmark legislation to come before civic authorities, northern California's first city deserves a new nickname. Something along the lines of "the Animals' Republic".

Local lawmakers, whose legendary political correctness has, in recent years, seen them outlaw McDonald's Happy Meals, plastic bags, and the sale of bottled water, are to consider enacting another draconian ban: they want to stop people buying and selling pets.

The Humane Pet Acquisition Proposal, which has been prepared for consideration by San Francisco's governing Board of Supervisors, will prevent the trade in any domestic creature — from labradors to goldfish — taking place within the city limits. It has been crafted by activists who believe pet stores put profit before animal welfare, and say the industry causes needless suffering and death. They also argue that turning animals into commodities has parallels with the slave trade.

The legislation was BARELY defeated.. But the fact that THIS is EVEN considered as PROPER meddling of govt in the US -- is just as bad as that Chinese ban on dogs..

""No Johnny -- You cannot have a Happy Meal and NO we can't buy you a goldfish either.. Not MY FAULT -- The GOVT took them away.. ""

It's good for the Libertarian party.. A whole generation of govt tortured children.. The future is bright.. Goldfish in every bowl...

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by flacaltenn

Dave:

We're not so far behind those dictators.. Notice that the coverage is from the "INdia Times".. Even democracies like her are wondering what we are doing..

http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...es-slave-trade



The legislation was BARELY defeated.. But the fact that THIS is EVEN considered as PROPER meddling of govt in the US -- is just as bad as that Chinese ban on dogs..

""No Johnny -- You cannot have a Happy Meal and NO we can't buy you a goldfish either.. Not MY FAULT -- The GOVT took them away.. ""

It's good for the Libertarian party.. A whole generation of govt tortured children.. The future is bright.. Goldfish in every bowl...

Sounds like that was a local issue, and an expression of local values. Are you now against local democratic choice in governing.

Regards,

D-Ray

[flacaltenn]

There was a time D-Ray when I thought it would be cool to live in San Fran for a year or two.. Not anymore -- I voted with a moving van to get FAR away from all that..

I'm only matching a single Chinese city to a single US city so that we can't smugly sit here and ding the Chinese for their totalitarian leanings..

And I'm only against local control in the sense that people then get the idea that those laws can "propagate up" the chain of laws and eventually affect EVERY locale via state and federal involvement.

If I had confidence that this "slippery" power was ACTUALLY reserved (ala 10th Amendment args) -- I'd just laugh it off. But since the Feds don't see ANY LIMITS to their powers -- I do worry a lot...

But the public wisdom is that "as goes California --- so goes the nation".. For Gosh Sake --- I sure hope not..