A shocking statistic

[d-ray657]

This one:

The median earnings of men ages 25 to 64 declined 28 percent between 1969 and 2009.

This from an article appropriately entitled "The Fallacy of Post-Industrial Prosperity."

It's even worse without a degree: High school graduates in that category who did not have a degree saw a 47% decline in earnings.

That's what makes it so sickening to see the tea party propaganda being used by folks like the Koch brothers to distract people from the real issues in our economy. It ain't because taxes are too high or because we have a black man in the White House. It's because it's more fun for the moneyed folks to have $200 million in the bank than $150 million, and if they can get that from cheap offshore labor, that's what they'll do.

Regards,

D-Ray

[merrylander]

Happy Capital Day y'all.

[JCricket]

Thanks for the link!

I have thought we needed something like this "domestic content" policy for sometime. Better yet, if a company is an "American" company, it must produce all of its goods here, otherwise it loses all of its tax breaks and incentives.


If they are going to enjoy the freedom and prosperity of America, then they need to participate as an American company. Otherwise they are just dammed parasites.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

This one:

The median earnings of men ages 25 to 64 declined 28 percent between 1969 and 2009.

This from an article appropriately entitled "The Fallacy of Post-Industrial Prosperity."

It's even worse without a degree: High school graduates in that category who did not have a degree saw a 47% decline in earnings.

That's what makes it so sickening to see the tea party propaganda being used by folks like the Koch brothers to distract people from the real issues in our economy. It ain't because taxes are too high or because we have a black man in the White House. It's because it's more fun for the moneyed folks to have $200 million in the bank than $150 million, and if they can get that from cheap offshore labor, that's what they'll do.

Regards,

D-Ray

That's terrible, Don, terrible.

It's almost as disgusting as the moneyed folks who currently have a black man in the white house using propaganda to blame all of our current economic ills on the Tea Party and the Koch boys.

But I'm too excited for critical thinking at the moment...my side just faked their way into the red zone.

Chas

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Charles

That's terrible, Don, terrible.

It's almost as disgusting as the moneyed folks who currently have a black man in the white house using propaganda to blame all of our current economic ills on the Tea Party and the Koch boys.

But I'm too excited for critical thinking at the moment...my side just faked their way into the red zone.

Chas

Where did you find a football game on at this time of the morning?

Regards,

D-Ray

[Charles]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Where did you find a football game on at this time of the morning?

Regards,

D-Ray

Watch out for either ADTHE or ATDHE. net.

The Federales shut one of them down.

Wouldn't want to get your ass on a DHS hit list for trying to watch a crummy game that the networks won't carry.

To tell the truth, you can buy anything in America, from a bag of pot to a machine gun or even the president.

Howcome I can't pay a couple of crummy bucks to watch some shitty game?

Reckon I'm a terrorist now.

And if no one is paying attention, the CIA is spying on icebergs now, in an attempt to determine if global warming is occuring.


As far as I'm concerned, it's past time to start kicking asses and taking names.

Chas

[Charles]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Where did you find a football game on at this time of the morning?

Regards,

D-Ray

You need to use a #6 stinger, trebles are the best.

Chas

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

This one:

The median earnings of men ages 25 to 64 declined 28 percent between 1969 and 2009.

This from an article appropriately entitled "The Fallacy of Post-Industrial Prosperity."

It's even worse without a degree: High school graduates in that category who did not have a degree saw a 47% decline in earnings.

That's what makes it so sickening to see the tea party propaganda being used by folks like the Koch brothers to distract people from the real issues in our economy. It ain't because taxes are too high or because we have a black man in the White House. It's because it's more fun for the moneyed folks to have $200 million in the bank than $150 million, and if they can get that from cheap offshore labor, that's what they'll do.

Regards,

D-Ray

I see that actual percentage of male workers with full time jobs has also declined from 83% to 66%. That is a large difference and probably has something to do with the decline in median earnings. I'd like to see the numbers along racial lines and extended to include women. I'd also point out that women entering the workforce after WW2 also had a significant impact on men's earnings and the entire job market. That would be a fairer assestment of the change over time. I'd assume they are using constant dollars.

Free trade and compararative advantage is solidly grounded in economic theory. Think how cheap foreign manufactured goods have helped the poor attain things that they wouldn't have been able to afford if manufactured here. Sure, foreign manufacture does hurt the factory laborers and specifically, the unions, but it also helps the government dependent poor, the working poor, and those that have more innovative skill sets. Goods ought be made where they can be made efficiently. That means as inexpensively as possible while maintaining equivalent quality to domestically produced goods. Free trade is not the problem, but rather, the skewed markets that are caused by national governments getting involved in the process.

The Japanese success in penetrating and then destroying the U.S. electronics industry is certainly an example of free market efficiencies.

[Bigerik]

Originally Posted by bhunter

I see that actual percentage of male workers with full time jobs has also declined from 83% to 66%. That is a large difference and probably has something to do with the decline in median earnings. I'd like to see the numbers along racial lines and extended to include women. I'd also point out that women entering the workforce after WW2 also had a significant impact on men's earnings and the entire job market. That would be a fairer assestment of the change over time. I'd assume they are using constant dollars.

Free trade and compararative advantage is solidly grounded in economic theory. Think how cheap foreign manufactured goods have helped the poor attain things that they wouldn't have been able to afford if manufactured here. Sure, foreign manufacture does hurt the factory laborers and specifically, the unions, but it also helps the government dependent poor, the working poor, and those that have more innovative skill sets. Goods ought be made where they can be made efficiently. That means as inexpensively as possible while maintaining equivalent quality to domestically produced goods. Free trade is not the problem, but rather, the skewed markets that are caused by national governments getting involved in the process.

The Japanese success in penetrating and then destroying the U.S. electronics industry is certainly an example of free market efficiencies.

Yup, worked great for Japan. Cept their market is anything but free. Read an article recently of how Samsung, the worlds largest TV manufacturer, had to pull out of the Japanese market because of non-tarriff boundaries.

The Japanese car market has been pretty well closed to imports also. Peugeot won the import car of the year award in Japan a couple of years ago, and sold just over 2000 cars. In a 3 million a year car market.

The Japanese have always supported their own domestic economy. Only in the US is this considered a socialist/union activity.

[JCricket]

Originally Posted by bhunter

I see that actual percentage of male workers with full time jobs has also declined from 83% to 66%. That is a large difference and probably has something to do with the decline in median earnings. I'd like to see the numbers along racial lines and extended to include women. I'd also point out that women entering the workforce after WW2 also had a significant impact on men's earnings and the entire job market. That would be a fairer assestment of the change over time. I'd assume they are using constant dollars.

Free trade and compararative advantage is solidly grounded in economic theory. Think how cheap foreign manufactured goods have helped the poor attain things that they wouldn't have been able to afford if manufactured here. Sure, foreign manufacture does hurt the factory laborers and specifically, the unions, but it also helps the government dependent poor, the working poor, and those that have more innovative skill sets. Goods ought be made where they can be made efficiently. That means as inexpensively as possible while maintaining equivalent quality to domestically produced goods. Free trade is not the problem, but rather, the skewed markets that are caused by national governments getting involved in the process. The Japanese success in penetrating and then destroying the U.S. electronics industry is certainly an example of free market efficiencies.

DO you really believe all that bunk you just spewed? Really?
Lets see, goods can be made cheaper and take jobs out of the US. Therefore, the skilled have less jobs. They will take what they can get(they have to). This extra skilled laborer will displace the less skilled(read as poor) laborer. Now the poor, who were wroking are even poorer. And as far as national governments are concerned, if it weren't for them the rich businesses would have complete and total control of all wealth. The common man would have nothing. Read about carnigie and rockefeller and uncontrolled/unregulated capitalism. You might be suprised what you learn.

Yeah, I am a horses ass this morning. But your post is just way beyond rediculous.