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Old 09-14-2009, 12:28 PM
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They might also learn to be self reliant, responsible for themselves and family and be productive, now there is a scary thought.
And dead by the age of 48...
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:10 PM
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What is wrong with how he is doing it?

Other than the fact that he is keeping too much of the free market in an area where there is a HUGE conflict of interest between the insurance providers and their customers?
That is exactly the problem. There will be no cost cutting as virtually nothing will charge in the private market. Don't tell me about dropping pre existing conditions. The only reason this will change is because 50 million new folks will be forced to buy insurance from the Insurance companies. The profits enjoyed from that will more than outweigh the preexisting inclusion costs, hence Insurance companies are on board.

The drug benefit added to Medicare is a prime example of smoke and mirrors.
The biggest beneficiary of that was the drug companies, not the little guy as we are lead to believe.
This is the same crap.

We need the profit taken out of health care and a single payee. Most anything else is a disguise.
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:25 PM
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That is exactly the problem. There will be no cost cutting as virtually nothing will charge in the private market. Don't tell me about dropping pre existing conditions. The only reason this will change is because 50 million new folks will be forced to buy insurance from the Insurance companies. The profits enjoyed from that will more than outweigh the preexisting inclusion costs, hence Insurance companies are on board.

The drug benefit added to Medicare is a prime example of smoke and mirrors.
The biggest beneficiary of that was the drug companies, not the little guy as we are lead to believe.
This is the same crap.

We need the profit taken out of health care and a single payee. Most anything else is a disguise.
Yeah, but that would be socialism. Maybe even Communism!
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:45 PM
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Other than the fact that it will be broke before I get there, eventhough I and my employers have been paying in based on "MY" income, nothing! Wait a minute, it does not work well without supplements, so like many things the gov't manages it is a half a** solution that makes a great issue to promote when you are looking for the backing of the AARP.
And why is that? Because the huge surpluses were raped by Bush?
I know you don't want to hear this but you are not self reliant. You are part of a community and you need to both contribute and benefit from it.

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They might also learn to be self reliant, responsible for themselves and family and be productive, now there is a scary thought.
Yes we could lean to live again with repeated food poisonings, missing limbs, 80 hour work weeks and our kids at work instead of school.

We could enjoy an early death to boot.
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:14 PM
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What huge surpluses are you referring to?

And todays health care is one looooong way from free market.

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Old 09-14-2009, 03:56 PM
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What huge surpluses are you referring to?

And todays health care is one looooong way from free market.

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Old 09-14-2009, 07:10 PM
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I'm afraid that we're stuck with a two party system. The only way a third party will have an effect is if they're perceived as having a viable chance of winning, and not simply splitting the vote. Which will be difficult, as the media will do everything in it's power to discredit any threat to the status quo.

If you don't like things as they are, just consider that before long people will be calling these "the good ol' days".

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Old 09-15-2009, 07:08 AM
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And dead by the age of 48...
Perhaps by design we are supposed to be!

Why is the "quality" of the human life determined by the quantity?
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:09 AM
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Suppose they gave another election and everyone stayed home?
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Health care Shmelth care, off to the dentist's today then stop for a flu shot on the way home. Not a bad deal $96.40 a month for Medicare and I get one flu shot a year. Even though I go five years between check-ups they won't pay for that.
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