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06-24-2013, 03:11 PM
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Yeah. He'll fix it, but good!
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It's already markedly improved.
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06-24-2013, 06:06 PM
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We're still not creating jobs at a rate sufficient to get more Americans back to work, and there is a negative correlation between environmental regulation and economic growth. But such details have never stood in this administration's way of pursuing their agenda.
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Maybe so, but, we've all seen the effects of unchecked industrial pollution on public health and environment. (Especially those of us who grew up in the Rust Belt during the so-called "Good ol' days".) I am just old enough to recall the days when residents in Youngstown and Pittsburgh would be advised to stay indoors during "inversions".
For those who don't know, an "inversion" is when certain weather conditions move over a valley and prevent pollutants from escaping. It would get so thick you could see it hanging in the air and get a metallic taste in your mouth. Google up "Donora, Pennsylvania Smog" to see just how bad it was before environmental regulation. Or, better yet, Google up "China industrial pollution" to see how bad it IS.
Do you really think that was good?
It truly is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation, isn't it, Mike?
Dave
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06-24-2013, 07:51 PM
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It truly is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation, isn't it, Mike?
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Not necessarily. Timing, and approach, are everything. The government can take unilateral action, or it can be a partner. And there's nothing more compelling right now than getting the economy growing again and getting folks back to work. The environmentalists can wait until the economic picture improves. Then they'll really have something to bitch about.
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06-24-2013, 09:19 PM
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Area Man
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Not necessarily. Timing, and approach, are everything. The government can take unilateral action, or it can be a partner. And there's nothing more compelling right now than getting the economy growing again and getting folks back to work. The environmentalists can wait until the economic picture improves. Then they'll really have something to bitch about.
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I don't want them to have anything to bitch about. What you said about the government can also be said of industry.
And, in regards to this;
"And there's nothing more compelling right now than getting the economy growing again and getting folks back to work."
I couldn't agree more. Except, I happen to believe that which is built too quickly, falls apart just as quickly. And, that if it is built on a foundation too far tilted towards exploitation of resources, which includes human resources, that that foundation is only built upon the seeds of it's own destruction.
Dave
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06-23-2013, 11:59 AM
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I'll bet this is just part of a broader administration package that includes opening up the Keystone pipeline. He'll thereby throw a bone to Labor (in favor of the pipeline) and environmentalists (in favor of Green energy).
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06-24-2013, 11:56 AM
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Possibly admin. Maybe ;)
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Great! I was hoping my electric bill would go up
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06-24-2013, 01:30 PM
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Great! I was hoping my electric bill would go up
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West Virginny is doing so well with mountain top removal, which fills in the hollers and silts up the streams. At least they're getting brand new golf courses as a result of Massey's reclamation efforts.
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06-25-2013, 06:20 AM
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Geezzz... The economy is doing better than it has in a long time, unemployment figures are improving, and I see people who haven't had jobs in years going to work....
Admittedly, the turn around is taking time, as it should...
And still, people complain?
Couldn't just be a case of partisan sour grapes, eh?
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06-25-2013, 06:24 AM
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Geezzz... The economy is doing better than it has in a long time, unemployment figures are improving, and I see people who haven't had jobs in years going to work....
Admittedly, the turn around is taking time, as it should...
And still, people complain?
Couldn't just be a case of partisan sour grapes, eh?
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Really, Barb? Republicans angry because they lost? Naw! Not them..................
Dave
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06-25-2013, 06:26 AM
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Really, Barb? Republicans angry because they lost? Naw! Not them..................
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