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08-18-2010, 12:27 PM
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This sentence pretty well sums it up.
"It isn't a stretch to say that the greatest threat to free speech is, in fact, 'sensitivity.'"
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08-18-2010, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
This sentence pretty well sums it up.
"It isn't a stretch to say that the greatest threat to free speech is, in fact, 'sensitivity.'"
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There were some pretty whacked out posters after that too. The conclusion of one of them would be that we are sissies if we have the courage of our convictions.
Ms. Parker found another way to elegantly state that popular or non-controversial speech doesn't need the protection of the first amendment.
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08-18-2010, 12:04 PM
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If you can't watch Fox for more than thirty seconds and figure out what their deal is, then you have problems no brain surgeon can help you with. That has to be the worst asskissing organization on the entire planet. "TASS" couldn't have sucked up to a specific political party more ardently than Fox does. "Fair and Balanced"? Spare me.
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08-18-2010, 05:13 PM
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Here is an interview with one of the proponents of the mosque/community center. Those on either side of the argument might find ammunition there, but I think this lovely lady does an excellent job of describing the motivations behind the mosque.
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08-19-2010, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
Here is an interview with one of the proponents of the mosque/community center. Those on either side of the argument might find ammunition there, but I think this lovely lady does an excellent job of describing the motivations behind the mosque.
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good link but totally irrelevant
we are not and were never at war with the Muslim religion
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08-19-2010, 05:41 PM
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we are not and were never at war with the Muslim religion
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I think that is her point.
You're right, however, that their motivation for building a religious institution is irrelevant to their right to do so. The fact that they are exercising their faith is enough. (A more conservative-friendly reason for their right to do so is the rights of the property owner to make his or her chosen use of the property, so long as that use is not otherwise illegal.)
For that matter, the First Amendment also protects the right of the protesters to make whatever statements they want to make, even to the extent that it presents the world with a sorry picture of the state of tolerance and civility in this country.
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08-19-2010, 04:41 PM
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Lots of very intelligent people are explaining why the government should not interfere with the construction of the Muslim cultural center. One reason that has been stated several times is that the opposition to the center provides ammunition to al-queda to recruit against the Great Satan. That view is supported by one the the FBI's most effective interrogators of suspected terrorists.
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08-19-2010, 05:11 PM
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I am just stupefied by the opposition to an Islamic center in lower Manhattan.
It's just scary how myopic people can be and how opportunist politicians can be.
Is there a politician left alive that places country ahead of party.
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08-19-2010, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
If you can't watch Fox for more than thirty seconds and figure out what their deal is, then you have problems no brain surgeon can help you with. That has to be the worst asskissing organization on the entire planet. "TASS" couldn't have sucked up to a specific political party more ardently than Fox does. "Fair and Balanced"? Spare me.
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08-20-2010, 12:08 AM
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Seems pretty clear to me. Wanna exercise your religion by building a Mosque? Constitution says you can. Not a lot of gray area there.
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