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04-04-2016, 07:23 PM
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Very good article from The Economist - the old left vs. right days are waning; people no longer attach themselves to a particular class - the industrial/manufacturing political identity is all but gone.
http://www.economist.com/news/briefi...-thou-art-sick
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04-04-2016, 10:28 PM
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Well written.
The article ends with advice to center leftists: "They must make their own currents".
But Cats how is this tied to the migrant issue?
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04-05-2016, 06:54 AM
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Well written.
The article ends with advice to center leftists: "They must make their own currents".
But Cats how is this tied to the migrant issue?
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From the article:
Where are all the votes going? Many have been hoovered up by populists, typically of the anti-market left in southern Europe and the anti-migrant right in the north
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The fall of the iron curtain in 1989 and the subsequent integration of eastern Europe into the EU hastened some of that change by providing new pools of cheap labour. It also had a deeper effect. The politics of the EU countries had until then been constrained by history: hemmed in by the threat of the Soviet Union on one side and by memories of fascism on the other, social democrats and Christian democrats huddled in the centre ground. A generation later parties can set out their pitch far away from the old mainstream.
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04-05-2016, 08:00 AM
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On the news last night most of the 'migrants' returned to Turkey were Pakistanis, so what terror were they fleeing?
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04-05-2016, 08:30 AM
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On the news last night most of the 'migrants' returned to Turkey were Pakistanis, so what terror were they fleeing?
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The Taliban and others of that ilk.
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04-05-2016, 08:54 AM
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The Taliban and others of that ilk.
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Who mainly operated out of Pakistan and into Afghanistan. only very recently have they suicide bombed in Lahore
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04-05-2016, 09:02 AM
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Who mainly operated out of Pakistan and into Afghanistan. only very recently have they suicide bombed in Lahore
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Anarchy rules in NW Pakistan. Lots of Pakistani Muslims, and not just NW residents, would like to live somewhere else.
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04-05-2016, 09:04 AM
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Who mainly operated out of Pakistan and into Afghanistan. only very recently have they suicide bombed in Lahore
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The Taliban have been operating inside Pakistan for years. So has the US.
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04-05-2016, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
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On the news last night most of the 'migrants' returned to Turkey were Pakistanis, so what terror were they fleeing?
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RU serious?
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04-05-2016, 12:18 PM
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Quite serious since they were already on Lesbos when that suicide bomber struck, unless you are suggesting they were clairvoyant.
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