I hope this has not already been posted. I find it very disturbing

[wgrr]

Originally Posted by Rex E.

The first half of this is 75% correct. The other 25% is an unknown but speculation leans to no.

The last half is a bit backwards of how our system works. The State bears the burden of proving that Zimmerman was not defending himself. The rest of us are to presume he's innocent until the State has proven his guilt, if I remember correctly.

I am not a lawyer but I feel confident I could walk Zimmerman. I would not try to poke holes in the states case, because there isn't one.

[RamblinE]

There's little chance that somebody who weighs a hundred pounds less then me will have me down on the ground banging my head into the pavement. However that's an unlikely scenario as I am 150 pounds. However, my point is still valid.

Kids make mistakes. Martin was only 17. I made a lot of mistakes around that age and the consequences are that while I'm barely a sophmore in college my friends are buying houses and getting established in careers. However, you live and you learn, an opportunity that Trayvon Martin was denied.

[Wasillaguy]

Not all mistakes are survivable

[RamblinE]

And not all physical altercations are deadly. Had Zimmerman minded his own business there would have been no physical altercation with Martin.

[Wasillaguy]

That may be true, but Zimmerman was beyond minding his own business. The community had a rash of crime and he was motivated to do something about it. By all indications, he probably had a John Wayne complex to boot. Doesn't really matter either way. What matters is whether Trayvon was assaulting him to a degree he believed his life was in danger.
I agree Zimmerman should be arrested, and he should have to prove his actions were in self defense.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

That may be true, but Zimmerman was beyond minding his own business. The community had a rash of crime and he was motivated to do something about it. By all indications, he probably had a John Wayne complex to boot. Doesn't really matter either way. What matters is whether Trayvon was assaulting him to a degree he believed his life was in danger.
I agree Zimmerman should be arrested, and he should have to prove his actions were in self defense.

We're not too far from agreement, unless Zimmerman instigated the altercation - made the first physical contact. It is also possible that the level of Trayvon's response was a result of Zimmerman pulling a gun on him - and Trayvon being in immediate fear for his life. If someone has a gun, he could not feel safe until the gunman was disabled.

That would not be inconsistent with him playing cop, and intending to hold Trayvon until the police arrived.

Regards,

D-Ray

[wgrr]

I had a chance to listen to a lot about this case today because I had lots of windshield time.

There is absolutely no evidence that Zimmerman was assaulted. He did not go to the hospital that night, and the first police report made no mention of any injuries to Zimmerman's body. The next day he went to the hospital and there was an amended police report filed to reflect the injuries.

Call me crazy, but I would let someone bust my nose and beat my head on the ground so that I could manufacture a "self defense" angle when the police just let me go after a fatal shooting, and I was the shooter. That in itself is very suspicious. This police department is doing it's best to cover Zimmerman's ass. The big question is, "why?"

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by wgrr

I had a chance to listen to a lot about this case today because I had lots of windshield time.

There is absolutely no evidence that Zimmerman was assaulted. He did not go to the hospital that night, and the first police report made no mention of any injuries to Zimmerman's body. The next day he went to the hospital and there was an amended police report filed to reflect the injuries.

Call me crazy, but I would let someone bust my nose and beat my head on the ground so that I could manufacture a "self defense" angle when the police just let me go after a fatal shooting, and I was the shooter. That in itself is very suspicious. This police department is doing it's best to cover Zimmerman's ass. The big question is, "why?"

Not only Zimmerman's but the PD needs to cover up the facts. I agree the injuries due to self defense seems suspicious especially the way it has come out.

By the way Zimmerman's father is a retired judge.

Barney

[wgrr]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Not only Zimmerman's but the PD needs to cover up the facts. I agree the injuries due to self defense seems suspicious especially the way it has come out.

By the way Zimmerman's father is a retired judge.

Barney

Wow, did not know that fact. If he was a judge who favored the cops in his career, some of this is starting to make sense to me.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by wgrr

I had a chance to listen to a lot about this case today because I had lots of windshield time.

There is absolutely no evidence that Zimmerman was assaulted. He did not go to the hospital that night, and the first police report made no mention of any injuries to Zimmerman's body. The next day he went to the hospital and there was an amended police report filed to reflect the injuries.

Call me crazy, but I would let someone bust my nose and beat my head on the ground so that I could manufacture a "self defense" angle when the police just let me go after a fatal shooting, and I was the shooter. That in itself is very suspicious. This police department is doing it's best to cover Zimmerman's ass. The big question is, "why?"

Originally Posted by Oerets

Not only Zimmerman's but the PD needs to cover up the facts. I agree the injuries due to self defense seems suspicious especially the way it has come out.

By the way Zimmerman's father is a retired judge.

Barney

And possibly a Republican, judging by their determination to help clear his name.

Dave