With Presidents Like This Who Needs Enemies?

[barbara]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Has been since January 20th......


Barney

Good point. But trump won't admit to that.

[Rajoo]

Is this for what he has done, which is nothing, or for what he has undone. Specifically on birth control and abortion. Unwanted, unloved and un-cared for children is really what this country needs more of?

Trump gets hero’s welcome at Christian summit

Trump received multiple standing ovations as the first-ever sitting president to address the Values Voter Summit, a yearly gathering of social conservatives....................

The first ever sitting president. Guess not very many places he gets invited to I guess where the average IQ is in triple digits.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ristian-summit

[whell]

Back when the Obamacare was being debated on this forum, insurance companies were the enemies to many forum posters - some of whom posted in this thread - who turned premiums into profits by investing wisely and refusing to pay claims. Premiums were too high because of insurance company profiteering.

So, this thread comes as a bit of a surprise. The CSR payments - if viewed through the prism that yielded the comments back in 2010 - 2011 - should be viewed as payoffs to the insurance companies to help prop up profit margins. Now, here you folks are bemoaning the fact that those CSR payments might be curtailed.

Can someone explain the left's change of heart or change of perspective on this?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

Back when the Obamacare was being debated on this forum, insurance companies were the enemies to many forum posters - some of whom posted in this thread - who turned premiums into profits by investing wisely and refusing to pay claims. Premiums were too high because of insurance company profiteering.

So, this thread comes as a bit of a surprise. The CSR payments - if viewed through the prism that yielded the comments back in 2010 - 2011 - should be viewed as payoffs to the insurance companies to help prop up profit margins. Now, here you folks are bemoaning the fact that those CSR payments might be curtailed.

Can someone explain the left's change of heart or change of perspective on this?

You're going to have to back up such broadbrush statements with citations, Mike. Let's see them.

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

You're going to have to back up such broadbrush statements with citations, Mike. Let's see them.

Seriously? Your lack of memory in this case seems purposeful. However, lots of ground covered in threads like these, where insurance carriers are characterized as part of the problem because of their profit motive:

http://www.politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=4502

http://www.politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=6290

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

Seriously? Your lack of memory in this case seems purposeful. However, lots of ground covered in threads like these, where insurance carriers are characterized as part of the problem because of their profit motive:

http://www.politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=4502

http://www.politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=6290

As usual, you're full of crap, Mike. Neither of those links provide any underpinnings to your ridiculous broadbrush statements/attacks.

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

As usual, you're full of crap, Mike. Neither of those links provide any underpinnings to your ridiculous broadbrush statements/attacks.

Attacks!? LOL! Actually, those links do provide a good source of info about the Repubs history on the topic. The part that's lost on you is that the Repubs aren't stupid enough to try to pass something as huge, unwieldy and unworkable as ObamaCare. Only the left is that stupid.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by whell

Oh, and by the way...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot.../#30915d9e3cca

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot.../#690407bd3355

In other words, during Obama's administration the GOP came up with two alternative plans to the ACA yet have failed to enact either one since the election.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Back when the Obamacare was being debated on this forum...

... you insisted that the GOP had a plan that would provide better care, cost less and cover more people (after I insisted that they had no such plan). Now, who looks like the gullible Trumpster?

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

... you insisted that the GOP had a plan that would provide better care, cost less and cover more people (after I insisted that they had no such plan).

I said nothing of the sort, though the plan had elements could help start to bring costs down.

However, back then you were trying to put words in my mouth, and your lame - ass debate tactics are as flawed then as they are today.

Originally Posted by finnbow

Now, who looks like the gullible Trump-obsessed moron?

...fixed it a bit for ya...

Easy. That would be you, sir.