Abu Bakr Baghdadi's Death

[love4peace]

is his death really confirmed ??
this means terror ended ??
will they revenge to his death ??
is ISIS totally eliminated ??
is ISIS goes by orders from Baghdadi or his death doesn't mean anything ??
the world is peacefull today ??
please tell us good news & analysis so i go to celebrate this event .
and
what would you say to his soul ? if he had one

[love4peace]

well no , i still see terrorists are "Angry" on YOUTUBE talking in "arabic language" , they worship Ben Laden & Al-Baghdadi .

seems like war on terror has no end. :''(((( what a sad world !! :'''((((
fuckin creatures on human beings forms , why ?? why?? why?? why goddamit ??
can't any intelligence agency get rid off those commentators whom worshipping terrorists ?? they are on YOUTUBE mostly .

[Pio1980]

The remarkable things about this is the babbling nitwit in the Oval didn't fuck it up, and that some brown folk and the family members that died on his watch weren't guiltless refugees as is usually the case with him.

[love4peace]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

The remarkable things about this is the babbling nitwit in the Oval didn't fuck it up, and that some brown folk and the family members that died on his watch weren't guiltless refugees as is usually the case with him.

you mean Al-Baghdadi ?? family members ?? surely if he took them as a shield , they will be considered as terrorists even if they weren't guilty..war will need to take rid of them .. at least they will go to where god shall put them but Al-Baghdadi will be where he shall burn in hell .

i hope no more fuckin virus but can the US.intelligence with worldwide's authorities take care about those whom are worshipping terror in social websites ?? it needs more seriousness


big thanks to the US.Military !! <3 <3

[Chicks]

The U.S. kills an ISIS leader. But Trump is giving the group a new lease on life.
By Max Boot
Columnist
Oct. 27, 2019 at 10:37 a.m. PDT

The operation to kill him attests to the superlative skills of the U.S. Joint Special Operations Command and, yes, the U.S. intelligence community. Our intelligence officers are, as Trump said Sunday, “great” professionals, not part of a deep state out to undermine him, as he so often suggests. This operation was no more Trump’s doing than the death of Osama bin Laden was President Barack Obama’s. (Trump tweet from 2012: “Stop congratulating Obama for killing Bin Laden. The Navy Seals killed Bin Laden.”) But both men approved the risky operations and can bask in their reflected glory.

There is every reason to fear that Islamic State now could prove distressingly resilient despite this monster’s death. This summer, inspectors general from the Defense and State departments and the U.S. Agency for International Development warned that Islamic State retained as many as 18,000 fighters in Syria and Iraq and was starting to stage a comeback. That resurgence is likely to be accelerated by Trump’s ill-advised pullout from northern Syria, which ends a partnership with the Kurds that, among other benefits, provided intelligence that contributed to the track-down of Baghdadi. Trump is now dismantling the infrastructure that made this success possible.

Small comfort that this guy has been eliminated.

[Chicks]

OBAMA WHITE HOUSE PHOTOGRAPHER SUGGESTS TRUMP SITUATION ROOM PHOTO OF UNFOLDING AL-BAGHDADI RAID WAS STAGED

https://www.newsweek.com/obama-photo...olfing-1468012

Probably kept the moron in chief in the dark until it was all over, to ensure he wouldn’t screw it up.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Chicks

OBAMA WHITE HOUSE PHOTOGRAPHER SUGGESTS TRUMP SITUATION ROOM PHOTO OF UNFOLDING AL-BAGHDADI RAID WAS STAGED

https://www.newsweek.com/obama-photo...olfing-1468012

Probably kept the moron in chief in the dark until it was all over, to ensure he wouldn’t screw it up.

Well, that's plausible and explains a lot.
Another example of stolen valor.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

The remarkable things about this is the babbling nitwit in the Oval didn't fuck it up, and that some brown folk and the family members that died on his watch weren't guiltless refugees as is usually the case with him.

Well, it appears he tried but failed to fuck it up.
Trump’s Syria Troop Withdrawal Complicated Plans for al-Baghdadi Raid https://nyti.ms/2MS0dFh

[Chicks]

Heather Cox Richardson
41 mins ·
Sunday, October 27, 2019

The big news today was the story of the killing of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the founder and leader of the Islamic State, known as ISIS, in northern Syria. The way this whole event played out is astonishingly vague to me, but that very vagueness has provided a weird snapshot of the current state of the Trump presidency.

In history books, the apparent killing of al-Baghdadi will likely be a footnote in the larger story of the US withdrawal from northern Syria, where we abandoned our allies the Kurds and left control of the region to Turkey and Russia. News reports suggest that our hasty withdrawal put the long-planned mission at risk, and that it was possible only thanks to information provided by the Kurds. Yet, in his account of the mission, Trump thanked the Russians and relegated the Kurds to a minor position. The loss of al-Baghdadi is a major blow to ISIS, but it does not change the direction of movement in the region away from American influence in favor of Russia.

Trump also told reporters that he did not share news of the raid with Congress, claiming he saw congresspeople as a security risk because he was afraid of leaks. This is odd. He is required by law to inform the so-called "Gang of Eight" about any covert action. The Gang of Eight is not simply Democrats, as he suggested; it includes the leaders of the House and Senate from each party, and the Chairs and Ranking Members of the intelligence committees from both houses. They are sworn to secrecy, and they keep it. He is required to tell them.

Trump is suggesting that he can overrule the law saying he has to inform them... but there was no reason to do that. It makes me wonder if information about the raid was kept from the president himself. In any case, the fact he is trying to use this moment as a way to deny any obligation to keep Congress informed of vital American security suggests his ongoing strategy to say he is supreme. (Much has been said about his informing Putin of the raid, but my guess is that someone had to do that to make sure there were not attacks on the US forces.)

The other way in which this moment provides an odd snapshot is literally a snapshot. The White House released a photo it claimed was Trump, Vice President Pence, and four other leaders in the Situation Room monitoring the raid. (The Situation Room, also called the "Sit. Room" for short, is a secure basement room in the White House used in emergency situations.) But observers immediately noted that the photo was staged. The photographer for the Obama White House pointed out that the time stamp on the photo did not match the time of the raid. And there are weird wires running down the table. They normally would be covered, and in this shot the cables don't connect to anything. It is as if it is a photo intended to convey seriousness and activity, staged by someone who has no idea at all of what an actual working room looks like.

It is this aspect of the domestic importance of the raid that apparently killed al-Baghdadi that speaks most strongly to me. It is pure propaganda, attempting to sell to the American people something that is openly fake.

Lots of people don't care. They like the strength that the image projects, and that it is not real does not matter to them. But here's why it bothers me:

America was founded on the belief that human government must be based in reality. After centuries in which Europeans divided themselves according to religion, ethnicity, or kinship and killed each other over their beliefs and superstitions, thinkers began to see that there was a better way to order society. If people agreed to operate according to fact and reality, rather than according to image and belief, Enlightenment thinkers argued, they could build stable governments that could avoid the horrific wars of ethnicity and religion that had so scarred Europe.

America was born of that moment. Our Founders rejected superstition and religion as a basis for government and instead based it on real observations about the way the world worked. They often got it wrong-- as imperfect humans have done ever since-- but the belief that the government must be based on reality, rather than on a superstition or fantasy, was central to our nation.

Politicians always spin things, but until now presidents have honored the Enlightenment ideal at the heart of who we are. For the White House deliberately to produce a staged piece of propaganda to advance a fictional narrative strikes at our very foundation.

There is no doubt that Trump and his people hoped the news of al-Baghdadi's death would overtake attention being paid to the Ukraine scandal, but that appears not to be the case. When the president arrived at Game 5 of the World Series tonight in Washington, spectators booed him and chanted "Lock Him Up!"

And so we begin another tense week in Washington, D.C., at the seat of the government that George Washington called "The Great Experiment."

[love4peace]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Heather Cox Richardson
41 mins ·
Sunday, October 27, 2019

The big news today was the story of the killing of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the founder and leader of the Islamic State, known as ISIS, in northern Syria. The way this whole event played out is astonishingly vague to me, but that very vagueness has provided a weird snapshot of the current state of the Trump presidency.

In history books, the apparent killing of al-Baghdadi will likely be a footnote in the larger story of the US withdrawal from northern Syria, where we abandoned our allies the Kurds and left control of the region to Turkey and Russia. News reports suggest that our hasty withdrawal put the long-planned mission at risk, and that it was possible only thanks to information provided by the Kurds. Yet, in his account of the mission, Trump thanked the Russians and relegated the Kurds to a minor position. The loss of al-Baghdadi is a major blow to ISIS, but it does not change the direction of movement in the region away from American influence in favor of Russia.

Trump also told reporters that he did not share news of the raid with Congress, claiming he saw congresspeople as a security risk because he was afraid of leaks. This is odd. He is required by law to inform the so-called "Gang of Eight" about any covert action. The Gang of Eight is not simply Democrats, as he suggested; it includes the leaders of the House and Senate from each party, and the Chairs and Ranking Members of the intelligence committees from both houses. They are sworn to secrecy, and they keep it. He is required to tell them.

Trump is suggesting that he can overrule the law saying he has to inform them... but there was no reason to do that. It makes me wonder if information about the raid was kept from the president himself. In any case, the fact he is trying to use this moment as a way to deny any obligation to keep Congress informed of vital American security suggests his ongoing strategy to say he is supreme. (Much has been said about his informing Putin of the raid, but my guess is that someone had to do that to make sure there were not attacks on the US forces.)

The other way in which this moment provides an odd snapshot is literally a snapshot. The White House released a photo it claimed was Trump, Vice President Pence, and four other leaders in the Situation Room monitoring the raid. (The Situation Room, also called the "Sit. Room" for short, is a secure basement room in the White House used in emergency situations.) But observers immediately noted that the photo was staged. The photographer for the Obama White House pointed out that the time stamp on the photo did not match the time of the raid. And there are weird wires running down the table. They normally would be covered, and in this shot the cables don't connect to anything. It is as if it is a photo intended to convey seriousness and activity, staged by someone who has no idea at all of what an actual working room looks like.

It is this aspect of the domestic importance of the raid that apparently killed al-Baghdadi that speaks most strongly to me. It is pure propaganda, attempting to sell to the American people something that is openly fake.

Lots of people don't care. They like the strength that the image projects, and that it is not real does not matter to them. But here's why it bothers me:

America was founded on the belief that human government must be based in reality. After centuries in which Europeans divided themselves according to religion, ethnicity, or kinship and killed each other over their beliefs and superstitions, thinkers began to see that there was a better way to order society. If people agreed to operate according to fact and reality, rather than according to image and belief, Enlightenment thinkers argued, they could build stable governments that could avoid the horrific wars of ethnicity and religion that had so scarred Europe.

America was born of that moment. Our Founders rejected superstition and religion as a basis for government and instead based it on real observations about the way the world worked. They often got it wrong-- as imperfect humans have done ever since-- but the belief that the government must be based on reality, rather than on a superstition or fantasy, was central to our nation.

Politicians always spin things, but until now presidents have honored the Enlightenment ideal at the heart of who we are. For the White House deliberately to produce a staged piece of propaganda to advance a fictional narrative strikes at our very foundation.

There is no doubt that Trump and his people hoped the news of al-Baghdadi's death would overtake attention being paid to the Ukraine scandal, but that appears not to be the case. When the president arrived at Game 5 of the World Series tonight in Washington, spectators booed him and chanted "Lock Him Up!"

And so we begin another tense week in Washington, D.C., at the seat of the government that George Washington called "The Great Experiment."

always we need an evidence of that ifit's a truth or a lie ...i readed all this & took care to see that article that talks about Obama & the iraqi intelligence chief & the truth of killing that motherfucker "al-big bad daddy" , if he is not dead then no problem at all bcz ISIS cells still hiding around , "al-big bad daddy" will remain a mistery as the world's championship of hide & seek ... it's lovely how the united states isn't a religious based gouvernement but dignity is needed so they said that they got the DNA of "al-big bad daddy" after 15 min ?? we need the papers & not faked photoshoped ones then ,
in the end let"s just hope that it's a true progress !!