Its Israel's fault

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

Because it wasn't just about what happened to the Jewish folks at the hands of Germany. Many Jews came to the US, but the overwhelming majority at that time were either in the Middle East or Europe. Antisemitism runs very deep in both the Middle East and Europe, and history is replete with examples of why the Jewish folks would never be fully welcome always be treated as pariahs...unless they had someplace of their own.

So when do we give our African American friends a country of their own?

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Near as I recall they set it up themsleves, afterward the UN simply recognized the fact. the only country that had boots on the ground was the UK - and they were not exactly helping.

Originally Posted by bobabode

QFT
History is damn inconvenient isn't it.

Originally Posted by whell

Kind of a gross over-simplification of the process, don'tcha think?

Not really. Ever studied up on the acts of wanton violence Israeli terrori.....Oh, My bad. Meant to say....."heroes" committed against the British?

Dave

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

So when do we give our African American friends a country of their own?

Dave

When it is in our best economic interest.

[whell]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

So when do we give our African American friends a country of their own?

Dave

That's a bloody strange comment.

[whell]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Not really. Ever studied up on the acts of wanton violence Israeli terrori.....Oh, My bad. Meant to say....."heroes" committed against the British?

Dave

You guys like to talk about the formation of Israel as if it was simply an agenda item at the end of WWII. The issue has a history that goes back hundreds of years. The Irgun bunch was around for, what, maybe 20 years? Bringing them up in this context is like suggesting that Al Qaeda is in control of the acts and foreign policy of all Muslims. It doesn't wash.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by whell

That's a bloody strange comment.

It made perfect sense in the context of the discussion.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by whell

You guys like to talk about the formation of Israel as if it was simply an agenda item at the end of WWII. .

It wasn't?

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by noonereal

It wasn't?

Not necessarily. It is undeniably true that Israel has existed for a very long time. And the area never really was completely void of a Jewish population. But to deny that after the second world war that a mass exodus took place, largely facilitated and protected by western European governments and the U.S. Government is faux pas. Would the state of Israel, as we have known it since 1948, exist if not for that? Maybe. But, I for one doubt it.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

That's a bloody strange comment.

I'm a bloody strange person.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

You guys like to talk about the formation of Israel as if it was simply an agenda item at the end of WWII. The issue has a history that goes back hundreds of years. The Irgun bunch was around for, what, maybe 20 years? Bringing them up in this context is like suggesting that Al Qaeda is in control of the acts and foreign policy of all Muslims. It doesn't wash.

We do it just to annoy you. Now go away before I taunt you a second time!

Dave