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12-19-2015, 05:36 AM
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John you are reading into my words just what you want to see and not what is on the screen. On five separate occasions Muslim men went out of their way to annoy and even threaten my late wife.
These were to only ones to do so, no Christians, no Jews. I was not speculating on the future, and in any case no one can bother her any more.
I did not draw conclusions as to the future, that all seems to exist in your fertile imagination. Must I like every Muslim, Christian or Jew? Rather unrealistic wouldn't you say?
So perhaps you and DQ can find someone else to nag - though y'all seem to have perfected the art form.
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12-19-2015, 10:06 AM
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Rob, you have to look outside your own experience and refuse to draw universal conclusions based on one incident or one individual
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John you are reading into my words just what you want to see and not what is on the screen. On five separate occasions Muslim men went out of their way to annoy and even threaten my late wife.
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Rob, my point is in the bold text above. It doesn't matter whether it's one or five, both vanishingly small numbers whether you compare it to the world population of Muslims or even the number of Muslims you and Florence have interacted with.
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That proves nothing. It's like flipping a coin. How it came up the last time, or even the last five times, doesn't affect or predict how it'll come up the next time.
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No, quite the opposite in fact. There will be some individuals you'll like and some you won't if you treat them as individuals. That's the way it's supposed to work. Of course, if you form an opinion of all members of a group based on negative experience with five individuals, that's just as misguided (and a lot more damaging to all concerned) as liking them all.
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12-19-2015, 12:37 PM
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Rob, my point is in the bold text above. It doesn't matter whether it's one or five, both vanishingly small numbers whether you compare it to the world population of Muslims or even the number of Muslims you and Florence have interacted with.
John you have formed an opinion (with little basis in fact) concerning how I will interact with Muslims.
That proves nothing. It's like flipping a coin. How it came up the last time, or even the last five times, doesn't affect or predict how it'll come up the next time.
As there is unlikely to be a "next time" it really is irrelevant. At my age and health I am pretty much of a recluse.
No, quite the opposite in fact. There will be some individuals you'll like and some you won't if you treat them as individuals. That's the way it's supposed to work. Of course, if you form an opinion of all members of a group based on negative experience with five individuals, that's just as misguided (and a lot more damaging to all concerned) as liking them all.
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There you go again, how do you know how I treat people? During Florence's recent illness and passing I had occasion to interact with individuals of most every persuasion. Judging by their surnames they were from all over the world. The general opinions (as they were expressed to me personally) was that I am a hopeless romantic and please never change. The last thing on my mind was what religion, if any, to which they subscribed. Prayers were offered for her recovery but for all that was said they could have been praying to the Goddess. But I guess that I will never change votre idee fixe, so I am going back to my novel where my time can be spent more productively, A Dios.
Hmm strange during the time I was typing this I was logged out yet still allowed to enter text.
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12-19-2015, 12:47 PM
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Don't go Rob. Please.
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12-19-2015, 01:09 PM
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Don't go Rob. Please.
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Oh I am not going from PC just these circular arguments with John as we seem to be talking past each other.
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12-19-2015, 01:14 PM
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Oh I am not going from PC just these circular arguments with John as we seem to be talking past each other.
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