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Old 02-12-2021, 09:24 AM
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The term "People of Color" is racist and dishonest

People of color? Seriously?

Black people wish to be called black. That's what they call themselves. Calling them "colored people" is an insult. So how do you reverse that phrase, add a preposition and somehow it is no longer an insult?

Besides, if black people are people of color, what are caucasian people? No color? White people have all kinds of shade from pink to light orange and some olive skin tones.

People born in India have very dark skin. But they are considered ASIAN. People born in Russia appear white, but they are ASIAN as well.

And what about this idiotic "African American" crap? Egypt is in Africa. But they aren't part of the negro race. They have olive skin, similar to those from India, but they aren't African American.

What about white racists from South Africa? Are they African American as well?

If you want to advance humanity, you might try getting rid of the racism and just refer to every human on the planet as PEOPLE OF COLOR. We are ALL a "color."

Don't judge us by skin color. Judge us by our choices and our actions.
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Old 02-12-2021, 10:07 AM
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OK, a person is 'mixed race.' Do you, as a non-racist of course, want to insist they go in the black box, or the white box?
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Old 02-13-2021, 09:27 AM
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OK, a person is 'mixed race.' Do you, as a non-racist of course, want to insist they go in the black box, or the white box?
Interestingly enough, it was historical novelist Frank Yerby who authored all those novels about the 19th Century South (Fairoaks, Jarrett's Jade, The Foxes of Harrow, Benton's Row, etc) who referred to such mixed races as quadroons, octaroons, etc in an effort to define mixed races. His books dealt with slavery from many angles.

(Oh, and Yerby was a Democrat, Rush Limbaugh hating liberal right up to his death.)

In college Sociology class, the instructor began the course with that one drop of race blood definer. She then moved to other racist concepts as white flight. I was confused. She sounded like Guy Falks, from a Yerby novel, a slave owner. Then I saw a copy of the Utne Reader and it became all too clear.

Conservatives generally are uncomfortable with the color judging thing. We prefer to judge a person based on that person's views, actions and decisions. I mentioned that the phrase "people of color" is not only racist, it is dishonest. All people are people of color. In the Sixties, nobody had a problem with calling a black person a "colored person." Today blacks believe 'colored people" is an insult. George Carlin points out that "people of color" is just another way of saying "Colored people." He also points out that blacks prefer to be called black, (even though a lot of them come in lighter shades of black, some even in more Caucasian looking features.)


Liberals seem to want to use concepts of color to divide people. I find that distasteful as well as dishonest. Nothing good comes from dividing people. In the marketplace of ideas, it is the idea that should prevail, not the skin color of the person making the idea.

Republicans seem to have evolved from that mentality, but sadly no one else has.
As I intended to point out, there are people from India who have darker skin tones than blacks, but those from India are Asians.
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Old 02-13-2021, 12:32 PM
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Liberals seem to want to use concepts of color to divide people. I find that distasteful as well as dishonest. Nothing good comes from dividing people. In the marketplace of ideas, it is the idea that should prevail, not the skin color of the person making the idea.

Republicans seem to have evolved from that mentality, but sadly no one else has.
Concepts of color to divide people?

How about "Meet Willie Horton?"
How about Reagan's "Welfare queen?"
How about endless examples from Trump rhetoric, from "Mexico sending rapists" to "Shithole countries?"
If you're in a reading mood, you might pursue this, which traces the racist intent behind 'law and order' rhetoric from Nixon to Trump: https://tropicsofmeta.com/2020/06/23...original-klan/

Your partisan mudslinging on this issue cannot be regard as serious or honest argument.

You are not even trying to argue honestly. Game over.
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Old 02-13-2021, 12:57 PM
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Concepts of color to divide people?

How about "Meet Willie Horton?"


Do you even know what Willie Horton incident was about? I'm pretty sure you don't because you would have known that it was first revealed by AL GORE.


How about Reagan's "Welfare queen?"


To bring everyone else up to speed on that idiotic argument, I take you back to a 1976 Reagan speech, with the exact wording of Welfare Queen.

https://www.newamerica.org/weekly/ri...welfare-queen/

“She used 80 names, 30 addresses, 15 telephone numbers to collect food stamps, Social Security, veterans’ benefits for four nonexistent deceased veteran husbands, as well as welfare. Her tax-free cash income alone has been running $150,000 a year.”


You probably didn't know that's what he actually said when he used the term Welfare Queen. So first question, WHAT RACE was he referring to? He didn't mention a race. Or maybe I should ask, what race in YOUR MIND is so inferior, devious and cunning would be the ONLY race who would commit the kind of fraud that Reagan was referring to. And if you say black, you probably didn't know that there was a HUGE number of poor white trash women who download illegitimate babies and lose the father for profit. Unlike you, I don't see a race in this. I see a society cancer that was created by government.


By the way, the article was REALLY partisan and ignorant. And apparently it conveniently left out the fact that Wallace was a DEMOCRAT, like other segregationists Democrats of the day. (Fulbright, Gore, Byrd, Hollings, Maddox, Clinton.)


How about endless examples from Trump rhetoric, from "Mexico sending rapists" to "Shithole countries?"


The exact quote of Trump:
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"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best," Trump said. “They're not sending you…They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists."
MS13.

https://www.ranker.com/list/mara-sal.../katia-kleyman

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“Kill, rape, control.” That's the motto for Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, a transnational criminal organization dubbed “the most dangerous gang in the world.” The gang formed in the ‘80s and has its roots in the fertile gang soil of Los Angeles. MS-13 is predominantly made up of Salvadoran immigrants who sought refuge in the United States during the Salvadoran Civil War, and is known for aggressive crimes throughout Central and North America
Trump was right. Mexico is not sending its best to America. There's nothing to dispute about that.

As far as shithole countries, what do you think Hondurans and El Salvadorians running away from? Why would they cross a thousand miles of Central American jungles, put their children at risk of disease, rape and being sold into American prostitution rings? Are they leaving total paradises, where everyone has two cars in a driveway and makes six figures a year?

Tell me what is racist about calling such a place a shithole. What race are we talking about. Negroid, Mongolian? Caucasian?


If you're in a reading mood, you might persue this, which traces the racist intent behing 'law and order' rhetoric from Nixon to Trump: https://tropicsofmeta.com/2020/06/23...original-klan/

If you somehow think there is ANYTHING that Nixon (the most LIBERAL Republican president in history) has in common with Trump, you are reading stuff written by idiots. Simple as that. We are talking about situations NOT EVEN IN THE SAME CENTURY. Also, if you have a problem with Nixon's law and order concepts, I guess you didn't vote for Biden, the man who helped draft the law in Congress that wound up locking up blacks all across the country. Last time I checked with Trump, he had signed a criminal law reform bill that emptied a LOT of prisons, a goodly portion of those released being black.

By the way, your article was uninformed and stupid and incorrect. George Wallace ran as a DEMOCRAT. He was a racist and segregationist, same as other Democrats: Albert Gore Sr, William Fulbright, Lester Maddox, Ernest Hollings Jr, Bill Clinton.


Your partisan mudslinging on this issue cannot be regard as serious or honest arguement.

Intelligent people take it seriously all the time.

And again, look at who is doing all the namecalling. You've called me a racist and a troll and for no good reason.

Right now, I'm the only one actually DISCUSSING stuff. You have yet to offer ANY argument whatsoever, except for TROLL and RACIST.


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Old 02-12-2021, 12:13 PM
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And again, not your call to make, OP.
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Don't judge us by skin color. Judge us by our choices and our actions.
What do you mean "us?"
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Old 02-13-2021, 09:40 AM
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What do you mean "us?"
Prepare yourself for a shock in logic.

US MEANS EVERYBODY. We are ALL a group of US. We ALL have a skin color. We ALL have unique abilities, cultures, capabilities. We are ALL HUMAN BEINGS.

It's only the liberal Democrats who look to divide us on the basis of appearance.

Some troll here referred to me as lily white. Have you people ever SEEN a lily? There is NO human being on the planet the color of a pure white lily. That's just a racist insult on the level that even transcends the N word.
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It's only the liberal Democrats who look to divide us on the basis of appearance.
If it helps, my views regarding you have nothing to do with appearance.
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Old 02-13-2021, 01:43 PM
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If it helps, my views regarding you have nothing to do with appearance.
You're the one bringing up race.

I was referring to terminology. I maintain that the racist "People of color" thing is as much an insult as "colored people."


Maybe it's because you liberals are so young and just don't know anything. I'll be surprised if ANY of you weren't born in this century.

I on the other hand grew up in the South in the Sixties. I saw the REAL racism up close and personal. I'm the one who lost white friends because I developed friendships with blacks. I saw the WHITE ONLY signs, everywhere from North Carolina to Louisiana. I had to endure the George Wallace types, the segregationists, the bigots.

What we have today is a cartoon compared to back then. And the Sixties was kind of a cartoon compared to post Civil War reconstruction, when the Democrat KKK taught the country the true meaning of domestic terrorism.


Maybe it's because I have an education on the matter. Maybe I'm just a bit too hypersensitive to people who are allergic to facts, probably because I lived those facts.
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