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02-02-2018, 08:14 AM
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Just because you try to preemptively give cover to your moronic source ie Grover fuckin' Norquisling doesn't make it a valid tactic, dipstick. Better luck next time.
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Just because you don't like the source, dipstick, doesn't mean that the information provided is incorrect. And, unless you can refute the data, then simply saying you don't like the source isn't a valid tactic. In tact, that tactic is predictable as hell with some folks here. So, my comments were far less "preemptive" than your response was predictable.
Better luck next time...and try next time with some actual facts.
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02-02-2018, 08:24 AM
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Just because you don't like the source, dipstick, doesn't mean that the information provided is incorrect. And, unless you can refute the data, then simply saying you don't like the source isn't a valid tactic. In tact, that tactic is predictable as hell with some folks here. So, my comments were far less "preemptive" than your response was predictable.
Better luck next time...and try next time with some actual facts.
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Good lil' parrot, Mikey wanna cracker?
Grover Norquist is more than a few bricks shy of a load, my friend.
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02-02-2018, 09:11 AM
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Good lil' parrot, Mikey wanna cracker?
Grover Norquist is more than a few bricks shy of a load, my friend.
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So is your reply, but keep tryin'...
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02-02-2018, 09:15 AM
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Grover 'fucking' Norquist - a brief history...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist
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02-02-2018, 09:29 AM
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You just can't help yourself can you? The challenge was to provide competing data that refutes the evidence that many, many companies (the list is now up to 303) are passing along the benefits of the corporate tax reduction to their employees. In response to that challenge, all you can do is toss lame insults and attempt to steer the convo off topic and/or bark about the source. Very predictable.
Once again, just because YOU don't like the source doesn't mean that the info provided is incorrect. If you don't like the info, that present competing info. But attempting to discredit the source without providing substantive info to refute the info / data / whatever isn't going to cut it. That tactic is particularly not going to cut it in this case where the data is simply a list, complete with sources, of real companies that have passed along direct benefits to their employees.
Sorry, but you'll have to do better than that, if you can.
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02-02-2018, 09:34 AM
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Pfffffttt...
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02-02-2018, 09:39 AM
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Pfffffttt...
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Didn't think you could.
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02-02-2018, 09:39 AM
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You just can't help yourself can you? The challenge was to provide competing data that refutes the evidence that many, many companies (the list is now up to 303) are passing along the benefits of the corporate tax reduction to their employees...
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So, three hundred out of 6 million companies gave their employees a raise? What about the other 5,999,700 companies?
And what about this:
President Donald Trump’s administration will increase the amount of long-term debt it sells to $66 billion this quarter, marking the first boost in borrowing since 2009 as the Treasury seeks to cover mounting budget deficits.
The Treasury is shaping the government’s borrowing plans against a budget shortfall that grew to $665.7 billion last fiscal year because of higher spending on Medicare, Social Security and other programs for an aging population. The gap is expected to widen further due to tax cuts enacted this year that are projected to reduce revenue by almost $1.5 trillion over the next decade.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ime-since-2009
So, whatever raises people in these 300 companies get will get eaten up by increased interest payments on home and car loans.
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02-02-2018, 10:03 AM
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President Donald Trump’s administration will increase the amount of long-term debt it sells to $66 billion this quarter, marking the first boost in borrowing since 2009 as the Treasury seeks to cover mounting budget deficits.
The Treasury is shaping the government’s borrowing plans against a budget shortfall that grew to $665.7 billion last fiscal year because of higher spending on Medicare, Social Security and other programs for an aging population. The gap is expected to widen further due to tax cuts enacted this year that are projected to reduce revenue by almost $1.5 trillion over the next decade.
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All part of their plan to kill off FDR’s and LBJ’s legacy programs. Their billionaire supporters aren’t rich enough, they want it all, at the expense of the elderly and infirm. They’ll blame it on Hillary and the Dems, of course. Fox “News” will be there, cheering them.
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02-02-2018, 02:30 PM
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So, whatever raises people in these 300 companies get will get eaten up by increased interest payments on home and car loans.
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Well, I guess we should be glad that they'll have raises to get eaten up. Hillary would have these same folks digging even deeper to pay those loans.
By the way, you keep claiming you were a Kasich guy in 2016. Well, just as a reminder, he was a tax cut guy too. But, hey, far be it from me to suggest either selective memory loss or hypocrisy on your part.
https://www.johnkasich.com/jobsandeconomy/
The Largest Tax Cut in the Nation: Understanding that a more competitive tax environment is essential to job creation, Gov. John Kasich teamed up with Ohio’s legislature to cut taxes by $5 billion since 2011—the largest tax cut of any sitting governor. The elimination of the death tax, a 16 percent income tax cut and a complete phase out of income taxes for small businesses will free up more capital for growth and job creation.
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