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02-12-2016, 08:48 AM
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Jigsawed
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Why Assad's army has not defected.
The linked article presents a picture of the make up Syrian army which is somewhat different from that of the regular narrative.
http://www.nationalinterest.org/feat...d-15190?page=2
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02-12-2016, 09:15 AM
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Not supporting Assad and not bringing his Baathists into the fight against ISIL is shortsighted.
Do you think our ruling class's ties to the Saudi's is a factor.
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02-12-2016, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nailer
Not supporting Assad and not bringing his Baathists into the fight against ISIL is shortsighted.
Do you think our ruling class's ties to the Saudi's is a factor.
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Could be but the ties did not operate as to Iraq, where a Shia government was installed.
I believe the Assads' (father and son) regime connection to Russia, and oil pipe line matrix are greater factors.
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02-14-2016, 08:39 AM
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02-14-2016, 10:01 AM
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Thanks for the link Cats. Prior to retirement The Economist was one of my top go to goof-off sites.
Like your Wilde quote. Imediately thought of all the serious snobs out there and am still
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02-14-2016, 10:46 AM
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Probably the Americans are now comfortable with the Assad regime creating a stable area free of jihadists of whatever stripe.
The irony is Assad's area is the only place minorities feel some measure of safety.
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02-14-2016, 11:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
Probably the Americans are now comfortable with the Assad regime creating a stable area free of jihadists of whatever stripe.
The irony is Assad's area is the only place minorities feel some measure of safety.
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And that applies very much to Christians in Syria. In fact, the Christians almost universally support Assad, while the US claims to want Assad out while decrying persecution of Christians.
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02-14-2016, 11:13 AM
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And that applies very much to Christians in Syria. In fact, the Christians almost universally support Assad, while the US claims to want Assad out while decrying persecution of Christians.
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From our perspective the persecution is probably occurring to some extent. However when considered in light of how ISIS would treat them it shouldn't be a factor in allying our interests with Assad's. This shortsightedness is very American.
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02-14-2016, 12:24 PM
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From our perspective the persecution is probably occurring to some extent. However when considered in light of how ISIS would treat them it shouldn't be a factor in allying our interests with Assad's. This shortsightedness is very American.
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The persecution of Christians by radical Islamists is significant enough to have inspired a meeting between Pope Francis and Patriarch Kirill of the Russian orthodox Church, the first meeting between a pope and a patriarch in nearly 1,000 years.
http://america.aljazeera.com/article...t-in-cuba.html
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02-14-2016, 12:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreas
The persecution of Christians by radical Islamists is significant enough to have inspired a meeting between Pope Francis and Patriarch Kirill of the Russian orthodox Church, the first meeting between a pope and a patriarch in nearly 1,000 years.
http://america.aljazeera.com/article...t-in-cuba.html
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