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05-09-2015, 10:57 AM
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As would the imposition of Canon Law. Neither are appropriate means for governing a pluralistic society.
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Agreed and I earnestly believe that religion was devised by man to control people. Anyone who believes that they understand or can define a god is insane. Best to leave god as a concept IMO.
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05-09-2015, 11:01 AM
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As would the imposition of Canon Law. Neither are appropriate means for governing a pluralistic society.
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Unfortunately, unlike the Bible, the Qur'an (and the Sunna (Muhammad's living habits)) essentially lay out a system of governance. Hence, serious Qur'an-thumpers can't abide the notion of a separation of Qur'an and state, nor the idea of democracy (the rule of the people as opposed to the rule of the book).
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05-09-2015, 11:11 AM
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Unfortunately, unlike the Bible, the Qur'an (and the Sunna (Muhammad's living habits)) essentially lay out a system of governance. Hence, serious Qur'an-thumpers can't abide the notion of a separation of Qur'an and state.
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You could say the same thing about the Talmud yet, for all its manifest faults, Israel has pretty much avoided the theocratic trap.
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05-09-2015, 11:24 AM
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You could say the same thing about the Talmud yet, for all its manifest faults, Israel has pretty much avoided the theocratic trap.
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True, but Shabbat can still interfere with daily life there, no matter how secular you are. For example, Israel's trains and most buses do not run on Shabbat, nor on religious holidays. The entire country comes pretty much to a screaming halt for much of September.
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05-09-2015, 11:08 AM
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As would the imposition of Canon Law. Neither are appropriate means for governing a pluralistic society.
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Because theocracies of any kind are antithetical to.... are opposed to.... pluralism.
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05-09-2015, 10:58 AM
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Maybe we could just bring back the selling of indulgences.
I could use a get out of hell free card.
Just in case - you never know.
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