Blinded by hatred and not doing a good analysis.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by whell

One can draw the same conclusion with an objective analysis of any of the candidates. I think this will be a "hold your nose" election for most voters.

Don't know if you saw my posts on this Whell but this is the first time in my life I'll be happy with either candidate winning. I could vote for Hill or Trump.

As a left leaning centrist, both fit.

I can understand a stanch right wing or left wing voter feeling as you do however.

[whell]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Don't know if you saw my posts on this Whell but this is the first time in my life I'll be happy with either candidate winning. I could vote for Hill or Trump.

As a left leaning centrist, both fit.

I can understand a stanch right wing or left wing voter feeling as you do however.

I don't know that its all about the "staunch right or left". If you assume that the hard core of either side is, at max, 30% (that might be a bit high), and compare that the to "unfavorables" polling which is over 50% for Trump and Hillary.

Actually, is any candidate under 40% unfavorable? I suspect not. Maybe that's not horrible by political standards, but from a voter perspective I think it suggests a frustrated electorate.

[barbara]

Not that I condone blind hatred, but it just seem ironic that anti Trump people are being called out for blind hatred when that is exactly what Trump peddles.

His statements about Mexicans and muslims are hate filled and yet, his supporters say he is " telling it like it is".

[icenine]

Originally Posted by barbara

Not that I condone blind hatred, but it just seem ironic that anti Trump people are being called out for blind hatred when that is exactly what Trump peddles.

His statements about Mexicans and muslims are hate filled and yet, his supporters say he is " telling it like it is".

As always you are the voice of reason thanks for being here.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by whell

I don't know that its all about the "staunch right or left". If you assume that the hard core of either side is, at max, 30% (that might be a bit high), and compare that the to "unfavorables" polling which is over 50% for Trump and Hillary.

Actually, is any candidate under 40% unfavorable? I suspect not. Maybe that's not horrible by political standards, but from a voter perspective I think it suggests a frustrated electorate.

good point

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

I don't know that its all about the "staunch right or left". If you assume that the hard core of either side is, at max, 30% (that might be a bit high), and compare that the to "unfavorables" polling which is over 50% for Trump and Hillary.

Actually, is any candidate under 40% unfavorable? I suspect not. Maybe that's not horrible by political standards, but from a voter perspective I think it suggests a frustrated electorate.

Depending on the poll, Bernie is. Just under. And nobody else is even close. I suspect that, were it not for the dreaded "S-word", it would be higher.

The remaining candidates:

• Sanders: Fav. 47.6%, Unfav. 42.3%, Spread 5.3%
  
• Kasich: Fav. 42.1%, Unfav. 31.3$, Spread 10.8%
  
• Clinton: Fav. 40.2%, Unfav. 54.2%, Spread 14%
  
• Cruz: Fav. 32.4%, Unfav. 53.6%, Spread 21.2%
  
• Trump:Fav. 29.4%, Unfav. 64.5%, Spread 35.1%

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by barbara

Not that I condone blind hatred, but it just seem ironic that anti Trump people are being called out for blind hatred when that is exactly what Trump peddles.

His statements about Mexicans and muslims are hate filled and yet, his supporters say he is " telling it like it is".

I do not see that.

I hear the same statements.

i think many take a stand that voicing an opinion outside of political correctness is hate. It's not. It's speech outside the confines of political correctness.

BTW, I do not support that talk. It is simply not a deal breaker for me.

Deal breakers for me are looking to the bible for guidance or being an obvious idiot savant.

Thanks for sharing your impressions.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by noonereal

I do not see that.

I hear the same statements.

i think many take a stand that voicing an opinion outside of political correctness is hate. It's not. It's speech outside the confines of political correctness.

BTW, I do not support that talk. It is simply not a deal breaker for me.

Deal breakers for me are looking to the bible for guidance or being an obvious idiot savant.

Thanks for sharing your impressions.

Translation: racism is ok as long as I nor my family is not the target.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by icenine

Translation: racism is ok as long as I nor my family is not the target.

That is an erroneous translation in my case but I appreciate your perspective.

I think to some extent it is true. The "real American" Palin types do default as you just said.

But Trump has wider support than just the Palin crowd.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by noonereal

That is an erroneous translation in my case but I appreciate your perspective.

I think to some extent it is true. The "real American" Palin types do default as you just said.

But Trump has wider support than just the Palin crowd.

Your own words: :"It is not a deal breaker"

I guess if everyone supports a bad thing it is ok....