‘You’re not forgotten‘: how the right racialized the Ohio train disaster

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Originally Posted by finnbow

In both New Orleans and Flint, racism didn't cause the events (though it may have played a role in decision-making for the changes made to the Flint water system). It did impact the response to the events as a study commissioned by the state of Michigan showed in the case of Flint, as others have for the Katrina response. I won't bother trying to explain it to, because you'll just twist and turn through serial denials or otherwise obfuscate. You'd be better off figuring it out for yourself. Maybe then you believe/understand it. It will require an acknowledgment on your part of the existence of systemic racism, however, something conservatives are loath to do.
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The "study" you pointed to was conducted by the Michigan Civil Rights Commission. Here is a link to the study,and Ive read it a number of times. Have you read it even once? Or did you just read ABOUT it in a CNN article.

https://www.michigan.gov/mdcr/-/medi...B1CC88018D7F0F

For this Commission to issue a report that would determine racism played a role is not really newsworthy. Of course they'd find racism.

Of course, the case that is made in the report is convoluted as hell. I suspect the folks on the Commission had an axe to grind with Flint, particularly with the city's historical political leadership and with GM. That history had NOTHING to do with the decision to source water locally, other than to the extent that it was one of a number of decisions a cash-strapped city government made in order to save money.

It was probably also a logical decision to make. The Detroit water system from where Flint was sourcing water was poorly run and charged quite a bit. Flint had options, and they pursued those options. What got screwed up was the execution of that decision. Human error and poor judgment, not racism, were the proximate causes of the Flint water crisis.

Back to the report you mentioned: the name Darnell Early doesn't appear in that report. Not once. Mr. Early was the decision maker and the driving force to move away from the Detroit water system. Why do you think that is? You also didn't answer my question about Mr Early. Hmmmm....

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

The "study" you pointed to was conducted by the Michigan Civil Rights Commission. Here is a link to the study,and Ive read it a number of times. Have you read it even once? Or did you just read ABOUT it in a CNN article.

https://www.michigan.gov/mdcr/-/medi...B1CC88018D7F0F

For this Commission to issue a report that would determine racism played a role is not really newsworthy. Of course they'd find racism.

Of course, the case that is made in the report is convoluted as hell. I suspect the folks on the Commission had an axe to grind with Flint, particularly with the city's historical political leadership and with GM. That history had NOTHING to do with the decision to source water locally, other than to the extent that it was one of a number of decisions a cash-strapped city government made in order to save money.

It was probably also a logical decision to make. The Detroit water system from where Flint was sourcing water was poorly run and charged quite a bit. Flint had options, and they pursued those options. What got screwed up was the execution of that decision. Human error and poor judgment, not racism, were the proximate causes of the Flint water crisis.

Back to the report you mentioned: the name Darnell Early doesn't appear in that report. Not once. Mr. Early was the decision maker and the driving force to move away from the Detroit water system. Why do you think that is? You also didn't answer my question about Mr Early. Hmmmm....

As I (so easily) predicted, "I won't bother trying to explain it to, because you'll just twist and turn through serial denials or otherwise obfuscate...It will require an acknowledgment on your part of the existence of systemic racism, however, something conservatives are loath to do." You didn't disappoint.

Who am I to believe - you or the report of a bipartisan commission created by the Michigan Constitution 60 years ago comprised of 8 members, no more than 4 of which can be from one political party, released under the imprimatur of a Republican Governor's Department of Civil Rights?