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01-19-2010, 10:47 AM
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FBI broke law for years in phone record searches
The FBI illegally collected more than 2,000 U.S. telephone call records between 2002 and 2006 by invoking terrorism emergencies that did not exist.
Where's the outrage from Republican "anti-big government/law & order/personal accountability" zealots when their administration is found to have broken the law by illegally and systematically accessing phone records for years?
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01-19-2010, 10:56 AM
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Quote:
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The FBI illegally collected more than 2,000 U.S. telephone call records between 2002 and 2006 by invoking terrorism emergencies that did not exist.
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I find it endearingly quaint that the FBI felt they needed to have an excuse.
John
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01-19-2010, 11:10 AM
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I find it endearingly quaint that the FBI felt they needed to have an excuse.
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For real. Look at all of the blatantly unconstitutional stuff they did during the McCarthy Era, The Lennon Files, etc..........
Dave
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01-19-2010, 11:23 AM
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For real. Look at all of the blatantly unconstitutional stuff they did during the McCarthy Era, The Lennon Files, etc..........
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And Dr. King.
John
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01-19-2010, 11:52 AM
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When terrorists are invloved they will say no law applies. To some extent I agree, but certainly not completely.
Now turn the tables. What would the libs have screamed if they had the info on an attack from these calls and it was not used. Oh wait we been there all ready
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01-19-2010, 11:54 AM
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Can't forget that.
You should see what one of my FAR-right friends posted on my Facebook page.
Sheesh!
Dave
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01-19-2010, 11:59 AM
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Thankfully I am not far right, nor on facebook
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01-19-2010, 12:17 PM
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Thankfully I am not far right, nor on facebook
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I'm with you on that one, also twitter.
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01-19-2010, 12:35 PM
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I have the Facebook account, but I'm rarely on it anymore. It's good for finding long lost friends, but then you discover what they have become............................
Tried "Twitter"---hated it.
Dave
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01-19-2010, 07:31 PM
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Honest point here... I'd like to hear both sides in a civil, open minded manner.
We need to protect ourselves from terrorists. Although I don't want my private life made public, I have nothing to hide. Also, out of all the possible phone records that could have been illegally collected, 2000 doesn't seem like that many, in light of an inexact science such as intel gathering. How many of those 2000 records were used to do anything illegal or unethical to the individual to which they belonged?
What alternative is available to find terrorists other than covert surveillance? As has been said so many times, Freedom isn't Free; that doesn't just apply to those who have paid in war, but also to those enjoying peace at home. There is a price we all need to pay to maintain our liberty.
Alternatives?
Mike
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