Congratulations America!

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

Hell, nobody elected me for anything.

LMAO!!! Same here bro.

Pete

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

1000 pages of god-knows-what regulation is not unbridled capitalism and a large reason I suspect the bill is going down.

Pete

Part of the reason for its length is the Republican plan (successfully implemented) to amend the damn thing to death. The Rs did everything they could think of to make both the perception and the reality of the bill unpalatable to the American people.

John

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

They had help from Democrats. Liberman was the one in the news all the time. But there were others. Add them to the one mind Republicans who guaranteed a fillabuster and you can block anything.

But Lieberman is not a Democrat. Yes, he caucuses with the Democrats but, now that he's not the 60th member of the caucus any more, they ought to boot his ass out.

John

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Um, LBJ never could've passed civil rights without the GOP.

Pete

You just made my point. All those Dixiecrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act jumped ship. They and their descendants are Republicans now.

John

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

So far the public is rewarding the party that has chosen to say "no" and not deviate from that message.

Instinctive fear of change, carefully nurtured by the Party of No.

John

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

All you old guys ( ) from what I've read you where lucky enough to grow up in a relatively bipartisan time. The dirtiest campaign now still pales to campaigns of yore.

Pete

Well, yes, but I was only a baby for the Jefferson vs. Adams campaign.

But seriously, folks, campaigns now are far worse than at any other period in my lifetime and getting worse.

John

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Tsk tsk tsk Eddie, that's not being very bipartisan

Pete

The truth has no party. The Republicans have been thriving on division since Newt and before.

John

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Well, it's pretty simple. It's deceit for personal gain on top and mindless "Moonie" type followers below.

I think it's fairly apt to brand the core 18% or so of Republican supporters as Moonies but 18% doesn't win elections. Something else is going on and that is an atmosphere of fear and mistrust, directed at other Americans, which the Republicans, through their spokespeople Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly, Levin, Bennett, Weiner, Coulter, Malkin, Ingram...... I'm worn out........, have infected us with.

John

[rickr15]

Originally Posted by Boreas

The aforementioned Colorado governor was a Republican. [EDIT} Or not.


John

He was a Democrat.
I was going to leave that out but since you bring it up...

http://www.colorado.gov/dpa/doit/arc...offic/gov.html

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

They created a solid, impenetrable block of forty votes that only had to attract one opportunistic, soul-less political hack (read Joe Lieberman) to prevent a vote on a health care bill. Little over a year ago, it seems, Lieberman was trying to extend the GOP regime in the White House, so it seems pointless to not include him as a prick in the stonewall.

Regards,

D-Ray

Fixed it for you.