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02-04-2015, 07:32 PM
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... or so said the dissenting (and now irrelevant) minority.
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Are you suggesting that, by virtue of their having been in the minority, they were wrong?
Oh, and I forgot First National Bank vs. Bellotti. That's wrong too.
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02-04-2015, 07:40 PM
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Are you suggesting that, by virtue of their having been in the minority, they were wrong?
Oh, and I forgot First National Bank vs. Bellotti. That's wrong too.
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No. I'm saying that by being in the minority, their views are now consigned to irrelevancy, particularly in our common law system.
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02-05-2015, 12:37 AM
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Truth is still true when 'voted down.' Injustice is never irrelevant.
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02-05-2015, 06:59 AM
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Pretty typical that some in this forum would turn this into a story about class warfare, about how "society" is somehow at fault for his plight, and how his job sucks because it doesn't pay him enough.
The same crowd pushing the class warfare angle has to ignore a whole lot: like the fact that the city where this guy lives has no job because the economic conditions have been devastated by years of mis-management, graft and corruption. They ignore that the economy in this state is rebounding, but fell far behind the rest of the nation years ago and still has a ways to go. They ignore that the folks who are reaching out to help this guy are mostly average folks who happen to have big hearts. They ignore the fact that Robertson actually likes his job and therefore hasn't missed a day of work, and is someone who is trying hard to do the right thing in an environment where there are plenty of incentives not to.
Typical.
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02-05-2015, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
No. I'm saying that by being in the minority, their views are now consigned to irrelevancy, particularly in our common law system.
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A system based on utopian law would be much better.
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02-05-2015, 09:30 AM
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A system based on utopian law would be much better.
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But since that's impossible, we should settle for anything.
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02-05-2015, 09:38 AM
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The narrative is bullshit. The guy needs his head examined.
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02-05-2015, 10:10 AM
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But since that's impossible, we should settle for anything.
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Hell no! My beer had better be frigid, my chips crispy and tasty, my connectivity beyond compare, and my little blue pill supply endless.
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02-05-2015, 10:15 AM
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Hell no! My beer had better be frigid, my chips crispy and tasty, my connectivity beyond compare, and my little blue pill supply endless.
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Don't forget that you need a roof, heat in winter, and cool in summer. If all this can be managed with food stanps and odd jobs off the Internet, all will be OK, i guess.....
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02-05-2015, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
And exactly where did you get your degree in Constitutional Law?
My degree is in being able to speak and understand English
The money=speech doctrine has been in place for over 40 years (since Buckley vs. Valeo in 1976). Also, the First Amendment expressly prohibits making any laws prohibiting petitioning the government (e.g., lobbying). You may not like the idea, but it is on sound constitutional footing.
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The First speaks of people, now the preamble says 'We the people' so we may assume that wherever the word people appears in the document it is in reference to citizens of the USA.
Look up redress in the dictionary as well look up grievance the whole meaning says that the government has already done something to you and you are petitioning to have it undone or at least modified so as to undo the harm.
It most certainly does not say that lobbyists can write the laws and cannot lobby on behalf of foreign nations or corporations.
Of course nowhere in the qualification to be a justice of the Supreme Court is there a requirement that the person nominated be able to understand English.
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