An honest Israeli Jew tells the Real Truth about Israel

[VanishingPoi]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

#1 is correct. Hamas wouldn't stop if settlements pulled out for the West Bank - they want Israel gone and make no bones about it.

Here's another take from inside Hamas. The left has some interesting bedfellows.

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“Hamas does not care about the lives of Palestinians, or the lives of Israelis, or Americans; they don’t care about their own lives,” Yousef told CNN in a recent interview. “They consider dying for their ideology a way of worship.”

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http://nypost.com/2014/07/30/israel-...-founders-son/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosab_Hassan_Yousef

Pete

Hamas, Benghazi, Hamas, Benghazi. I don't need to read the links because I know right from wrong. That is all I need to know. More than One Thousand Eight Hundred human women, children (Mostly), have been wiped from the face of this earth.

The blame shifters never cease to amaze and never ever disappoint.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by VanishingPoi

Hamas, Benghazi, Hamas, Benghazi. I don't need to read the links because I know right from wrong. That is all I need to know. More than One Thousand Eight Hundred human women, children (Mostly), have been wiped from the face of this earth.

The blame shifters never cease to amaze and never ever disappoint.

In other words it right for Hamas to launch rockets into a country's civilian population indascrimitatly.

The truth is Isreal can wipe Hamas off the face of this earth and don't, Hamas would love to have this capability. The only thing Hamas can do I is sneak around hiding behind women and children letting them die in the conflict they alone start. Then send out the propaganda for Kool aid drinkers like yourself to get drunk on.

I think it would be good for you to read something other than what you are.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

#1 is correct. Hamas wouldn't stop if settlements pulled out for the West Bank - they want Israel gone and make no bones about it.

Here's another take from inside Hamas. The left has some interesting bedfellows.

"......

“Hamas does not care about the lives of Palestinians, or the lives of Israelis, or Americans; they don’t care about their own lives,” Yousef told CNN in a recent interview. “They consider dying for their ideology a way of worship.”

........."

http://nypost.com/2014/07/30/israel-...-founders-son/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosab_Hassan_Yousef

Pete

'Bedfellows' is a metaphor and like all metaphors proves nothing. I am on record as advocating a total opposite approach from Hammas's violence.

Hamas will change or die. What doesn't? The fairytale 'exestential threat' from Hamas is used, by bigots, to justify bigotry. Collective guilt and collective punishment are still wrong, as wrong as anti-Semitism.

[Dondilion]

The Three Big Lies Supporting Israeli War In Gaza.

http://theweek.com/article/index/265...ls-war-in-gaza

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

“Hamas does not care about the lives of Palestinians, or the lives of Israelis, or Americans; they don’t care about their own lives,” Yousef told CNN in a recent interview. “They consider dying for their ideology a way of worship.”

........."

http://nypost.com/2014/07/30/israel-...-founders-son/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosab_Hassan_Yousef

Pete

True. I believe this comes from the concept of Islamic Jihad, Jihad of the Sword. What I can comprehend from the Jihad of the Sword is that the Jihadists are fighting against injustice. And for all I know (I am no expert nor have studied Islam), Hamas looks at Israel as a land that was taken away from the Palestinians so by fighting Israel and dying, they become martyrs.

[BlueStreak]

Israel; When the oppressed become the oppressor.

I have no sympathy for Israel. It was a stupid idea, based on fairytales, that has been more headache than it's worth. Zionism is bigoted, religion based garbage and it needs to lose our support, once and for all.

Dave

[piece-itpete]

I hereby retract 'bedfellows' DQ, because I know you do indeed wish the Palestinians would change their approach

As do I. If they could pull off acting like Caesars Wife for just a couple years! the international pressure on Israel would be overwhelming. Americans and Europeans would be hugging them in the streets

That said I believe Israel has the right to go after the rockets and ones who fire them, and the tunnels/ones who build them.

Pete

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I hereby retract 'bedfellows' DQ, because I know you do indeed wish the Palestinians would change their approach

As do I. If they could pull off acting like Caesars Wife for just a couple years! the international pressure on Israel would be overwhelming. Americans and Europeans would be hugging them in the streets

That said I believe Israel has the right to go after the rockets and ones who fire them, and the tunnels/ones who build them.

Pete

Oh, I think something different than 'Ceasar's wife' would be needed. Non-violent non-cooperation. It would involve getting in the way a lot. It would involve taking losses.

[piece-itpete]

Losses? How now, brown cow?

Pete

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Losses? How now, brown cow?

Pete

I'm sorry, but I find it completely impossible to imagine you actually want some sort of answer.