Abortion; Is this true?

[BlueStreak]

I just heard that the GOP has successfully changed the definition of "rape" so that only women who can prove they were the victim of violent rape, which would NOT include statutory, "date" rape, or rape committed while the victim is drunk or drugged can receive a federally funded abortion. That she must basically show that she was beaten, or overpowered and physically forced into sex against her will.

Now, before your head explodes, I have never approved of "abortions of convenience". An adult woman who simply goes out and gets pregnant, willingly having concentual sex, then decides, "Ooops, I just don't want this right now.", and has an abortion makes me sick. Sorry, but it does.

But, if she's deliberately drugged and raped while she's unconscious?

If she's like, twelve?

Even if she goes out partying and some sicko finds her passed out and humps on her while she's incapacitated......I just don't know if I'd pressure her to have that baby.

I'm pretty sure that this measure is designed as part of the greater plan to whittle down PPACA. But as a stand alone issue, I think it is a bit too narrow and dangerous to the legal rights of women to define "rape" only as "sex by force".

Dave

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

An adult woman who simply goes out and gets pregnant, willingly having concentual sex, then decides, "Ooops, I just don't want this right now.", and has an abortion makes me sick.

An adult woman who takes responsible precautions (pharmaceutical or otherwise) but, then, becomes pregnant and carries a child that she does not need/want to term out of misplaced guilt makes me sick.

And $$$ support, in appropriate circumstances, to stop situations that are likely to generate more significant long-term burdens -- to those involved and us as citizens -- over time seems exceedingly prudent: once.

The convenience agenda and application is the issue. Past that, I believe we should be as liberal as possible.

[merrylander]

Especially as they don't give a tinker's dam what happens to the child once it is born.

[whell]

Where exactly did you "hear" this?

[finnbow]

The issue was the GOP inserting the word "forcible" in front of rape for future implementation of the Hyde Amendment (which limits Federal funding for abortion). The GOP caught such a ration of sh*t for this stunt that they backed off.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020304370.html

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

Where exactly did you "hear" this?

Actually, Whell, I couldn't recall......................

Originally Posted by finnbow

The issue was the GOP inserting the word "forcible" in front of rape for future implementation of the Hyde Amendment (which limits Federal funding for abortion). The GOP caught such a ration of sh*t for this stunt that they backed off.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020304370.html

Until.........Whoop, there it is!

(Really, I saw it from Jon Stewart.)

Dave

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Now, before your head explodes, I have never approved of "abortions of convenience". An adult woman who simply goes out and gets pregnant, willingly having concentual sex, then decides, "Ooops, I just don't want this right now.", and has an abortion makes me sick. Sorry, but it does.

Nothing to be sorry about. I feel the same way.

But I don't see what's wrong with this idea. I mean, let's face it. We all know a lot of time she wanted it but just called it rape after the fact. Crazy women. Slip some drugs in their drink and all of a sudden you're the bad guy.

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

... Slip some drugs in their drink and all of a sudden you're the bad guy.

ROTFLMAO! That would make a GREAT tag line!

Pete

[merrylander]

Then of course there is the prospect of some woman who has abortions as a convenience raising a potential citizen, I am not at all certain that prospect appeals to me. In punishing her (you had the fun, now have the kid) are we perhaps punishing ourselves as well.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by merrylander

In punishing her (you had the fun, now have the kid) are we perhaps punishing ourselves as well.

Of course, but self-righteousness feels good, doncha know?