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12-31-2013, 11:19 AM
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the Republican policy of being against the extension of slavery into new states created from territory stolen from Mexico WAS the reason the South seceded....
when Lincoln was elected they left the union for that reason...he was against the extension
as the war dragged on and the price in human bloodshed rose the aims of the North changed as far as the issue of slavery itself as an institution.
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Fixed it for you Robbin
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12-31-2013, 11:23 AM
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To answer to the OP......Maybe.
There is usually just cause in responding to hostilities, but rarely is there just cause for initiating hostilities. However, this statement is not absolute.
Does that clear it up for you, Cleon?
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12-31-2013, 11:23 AM
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That's exactly right. Every other excuse some will try to offer can be traced back to this central issue. The South being much more dependent on agriculture, feared such a radical change in farm labor structure.
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yup
This is how Kent State taught it to me
I had a great symposium class with this guy named Dr Frank Burns, from the University Of Wisconsin Madison
we read this book called The Mind Of The South
i really wish that I had not drank as much was much more sober my senior year I would have retained more of what I was listening to in class
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12-31-2013, 11:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icenine
the Republican policy of being against the extension of slavery into new states created from territory won from Mexico WAS the reason the South seceded....
when Lincoln was elected they left the union for that reason...he was against the extension
as the war dragged on and the price in human bloodshed rose the aims of the North changed as far as the issue of slavery itself as an institution.
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ok makes sense,but that war did change a lot of Lives In America.I am sure some familys are still at odds over the war.and Out come.Was away from keybord for a bit this goes in before the last 3 post for revalency
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12-31-2013, 11:39 AM
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Ok I got a pretty good picture I can fill in the rest with google.
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12-31-2013, 11:43 AM
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Ok since no one else has bought this one out I will.and it should be a good one for all interested,,ok what about the whole Mid east thig and when I say thing I mean that in Broad terms.DId the whole Thing stem from A simple Birth right.that seperated the Arabs from the Jewish.ok I am Dense so Dont jump on me,that is the reason I am asking and it is for clarification.
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12-31-2013, 11:52 AM
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Ok since no one else has bought this one out I will.and it should be a good one for all interested,,ok what about the whole Mid east thig and when I say thing I mean that in Broad terms.DId the whole Thing stem from A simple Birth right.that seperated the Arabs from the Jewish.ok I am Dense so Dont jump on me,that is the reason I am asking and it is for clarification.
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Cleon after WW I the league of Nations gave Britain a mandate to create a homeland for the Jewish people. Lord Balfour, who was administering the mandate kind of screwed up, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelan..._Jewish_people
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12-31-2013, 11:59 AM
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yea I know a bit about that,not much,I was thinking though the whole Arab and Jewish rift.I know at one time the Arab Ottoman empire concoured most of the modern world.
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12-31-2013, 12:01 PM
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AFK got go for a while I will be back but on a historical point I would like to hear some different takes,I know this particular area is broad since most of the earliest wars and history were in this region.
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12-31-2013, 12:03 PM
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Fixed it for you Robbin
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I still view the world through a cold war liberal filter so I use terms like won lol
let me quess white guys in Canada did not take any native American land?
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