Breaking News: Snipers Open Fire on Police In Dallas

[HarmanKardon]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

This will turn right in to gun control discussions I'm sure.

Gun control discussions are and always will be totally fruitless - this is how I see it:

There is somebody who has incurable cancer. Does it make sense now to discuss his disease? Now consider the American society being one big organism, this organism got some 300 million cancer cells (guns). The only possibility for America is to live with this disease as good as possible.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Chickens coming home to roost.

I'm having a tough time giving a fuck about this.

I agree.

I'm surprised it took this long for black people to start shooting back at the cops.

[barbara]

Originally Posted by whell

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...ings/86843010/

First:

Immediately after landing in Warsaw, and before the shootings, Obama had expressed solidarity with protesters earlier. In those comments, he aired his frustration with what he said were racial disparities in the criminal justice system.

Later:

“There’s no possible justification for these kinds of attacks or any violence against law enforcement,” Obama said, noting that he had spoken with Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings and offered his support and condolences.

Obama spoke from Warsaw, Poland, where he is meeting with NATO and European Union leaders.

When Obama expresses "solidarity" with the protesters, its the "Black Lives Matter" bunch that he's expressing solidarity with: the same bunch that has advocated violence against police. Its pretty hard for Obama to then credibly turn around and condemn that same violence when it breaks out in Dallas. I think if I were Rawlings, I would have hung up on that long distance call from Poland.

You must not have heard his speech.
He specifically pointed out that this isn't about black lives that matter but about American lives that matter. He went out of his way to make that point.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

This will turn right in to gun control discussions I'm sure. But, I think the German Jews are a good example of what can happen to an unarmed people.

Especially when you have a segment of the population bent on being Nazis...like the republican party.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Why not control the authorities thru training in less then lethal actions or defusing situations. Then to in keeping military grade weapons out of civilian hands.



Barney

Indeed. The problem is police using deadly force as a FIRST response. It's as if they are trained to kill people quickly and efficiently rather than "serving and protecting". It's almost as if we have a national police force of trained thugs.

The chickens came home to roost in Dallas.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I suppose this is what a 2nd Amendment solution looks like that a lot of right-wingers have been clamoring for (i.e., a group aggrieved with government action taking armed action against the government). How do you like it now?

Indeed..... +1

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by MrPots

Indeed. The problem is police using deadly force as a FIRST response. It's as if they are trained to kill people quickly and efficiently rather than "serving and protecting". It's almost as if we have a national police force of trained thugs.

The chickens came home to roost in Dallas.

Sigh...

Deadly force is the correct and appropriate initial response to any form of suspected criminality with a lethal weapon in play and immediate danger perceived.

Thugs?

If you want the situation to change, then get the guns and/or the criminals. Considering the infestation of modern society with both, blaming the cops is akin to bearing a grudge against penicillin.

1. Good mold dies too.
2. Shit happens.

If reality makes thugs? I'll buy a portion of your argument.

The problem is the Bad Guys, not the Good Guys. NOTE: officers aren't the bad guys.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

One day shootings in America will be as insignificant as a flat tyre and just an aspect of the American way of life. Very very sad.

They already are, Chris. We've even had a presidential candidate, Jeb Bush, say "....stuff happens." in regards to deaths by gun violence. You got that right, the Republican answer to all of this mayhem is to desensitize the public to human death and tell us we need to arm ourselves if we want to be survive. IT IS COMPLETELY INSANE.

I have come to despise these evil, rotten bastards.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Sigh...

Deadly force is the correct and appropriate initial response to any form of suspected criminality with a lethal weapon in play and immediate danger perceived.

Thugs?

If you want the situation to change, then get the guns and/or the criminals. Considering the infestation of modern society with both, blaming the cops is akin to bearing a grudge against penicillin.

1. Good mold dies too.
2. Shit happens.

If reality makes thugs? I'll buy a portion of your argument.

The problem is the Bad Guys, not the Good Guys. NOTE: officers aren't the bad guys.

The guy that the cops shot in front of his child, a bad guy right? The kid playing with a toy gun, a bad guy right.

Your argument is bullshit. It's us against them in todays america. The cops, they drive vehicles purposely designed to intimidate, they dress to intimidate, they are armed to the teeth and they treat civilians like crap, with disrespect and contempt. They are trained to kill first at the slightest threat (like a goddamn coward) and ask question later. They are thugs.

You and I will never agree on this Zeke.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Sigh...

Deadly force is the correct and appropriate initial response to any form of suspected criminality with a lethal weapon in play and immediate danger perceived.

Thugs?

If you want the situation to change, then get the guns and/or the criminals. Considering the infestation of modern society with both, blaming the cops is akin to bearing a grudge against penicillin.

1. Good mold dies too.
2. Shit happens.

If reality makes thugs? I'll buy a portion of your argument.

The problem is the Bad Guys, not the Good Guys. NOTE: officers aren't the bad guys.

How do you 'get the guns'?
The criminals if caught with a gun are killed first so that should not be a problem.