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01-30-2023, 01:47 PM
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Durham's Investigations Fizzles
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Oh, I almost forgot: the "Russian asset" that Manafort was accused of working with was actually a key contact for the US State Department going all the way back to 2013. The Mueller report saw fit to overlook that little detail.
In a key finding of the Mueller report, Ukrainian businessman Konstantin Kilimnik, who worked for Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, is tied to Russian intelligence.
But hundreds of pages of government documents — which special counsel Robert Mueller possessed since 2018 — describe Kilimnik as a “sensitive” intelligence source for the U.S. State Department who informed on Ukrainian and Russian matters.
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Actually, I was referring to Oleg Deripaska to whom Manafort owed $10 million for a previous loan that he tried to pay off with polling information helpful to Russian influence operations. Kilimnik served as an intermediary between Manafort and Deripaska. It also appears that Deripaska may have been the person who recruited Charles McGonigal.
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01-30-2023, 02:03 PM
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There is no evidence that Joe Biden did anything illegal. IIRC, you routinely dismiss any criticism of Trump or his minions (e.g., Manafort) unless they were charged and convicted of crimes that correlate precisely with the criticism (reminder - Al Capone was convicted of tax evasion, not of being a mob boss). [/I]
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Biden = bad
tRump = good until/unless proven otherwise
Get it?
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BIDEN/HARRIS IN 2024
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01-30-2023, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Actually, I was referring to Oleg Deripaska to whom Manafort owed $10 million for a previous loan that he tried to pay off with polling information helpful to Russian influence operations. Kilimnik served as an intermediary between Manafort and Deripaska. It also appears that Deripaska may have been the person who recruited Charles McGonigal.
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Oh, you mean the same Oleg Deripaska that has a long relationship with Robert Mueller? The same Oleg Deripaska that funded an FBI op? The same Oleg Deripaska who also had a history with Andy McCabe?
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01-30-2023, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Oh, you mean the same Oleg Deripaska that has a long relationship with Robert Mueller? The same Oleg Deripaska that funded an FBI op? The same Oleg Deripaska who also had a history with Andy McCabe?
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Yep. Same guy. These types of bizarre relationships are commonplace in the world of espionage, intelligence and counterintelligence. Both sides know and interact with characters on the other side each and every day. The issue is where their allegiance/loyalties lie. If Deripaska's or Kilimnik's loyalty was to us, they wouldn't be sanctioned/sanctioned by us, they'd be dead at the hand of Putin's goons.
Unfortunately, McGonigal's loyalty to the US now appears suspect and this may have had negative implications on the investigation he was leading against Russian intelligence assets/efforts in NYC, including those that touched Trump.
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01-30-2023, 04:42 PM
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Durham and Billy Barr clearly belong behind bars with Donny.
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01-31-2023, 12:13 AM
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Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Says Panel Will ‘Take a Hard Look’ at ‘Outrageous’ Durham Probe
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/se...-durham-probe/
Good!
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01-31-2023, 06:05 AM
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Yep. Same guy. These types of bizarre relationships are commonplace in the world of espionage, intelligence and counterintelligence. Both sides know and interact with characters on the other side each and every day. The issue is where their allegiance/loyalties lie. If Deripaska's or Kilimnik's loyalty was to us, they wouldn't be sanctioned/sanctioned by us, they'd be dead at the hand of Putin's goons.
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And yet, this was the guy that Mueller and McCabe turned to and worked with to fund an FBI op to try and get a CIA officer out of Iran.
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01-31-2023, 07:42 AM
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And yet, this was the guy that Mueller and McCabe turned to and worked with to fund an FBI op to try and get a CIA officer out of Iran.
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And your point is
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02-02-2023, 08:10 PM
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Two DOJ watchdog entities will battle over who gets to investigate John Durham for corruption probe
https://www.rawstory.com/investigati...o-john-durham/
Yet there are some in this very thread who think Billy Barr and Durham aren’t corrupt!
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02-03-2023, 11:48 PM
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Quoted from the rawstory article by Sarah K. Burris
"New York Times reporter Charlie Savage was on the team of reporters that broke the recent report that special counsel John Durham and Attorney General Bill Barr were corruptly using the Justice Department in an attempt to discredit Robert Mueller's investigation. The effort failed, but only after nearly four years and $6.5 million in taxpayer dollars."
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