IS/Daesh Burn POW Alive

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

They're trying to get us to respond emotionally instead of rationally.

Like we did after 9/11.

Air power is over rated and assures that there will be massive collateral damage.

Then we'll send in ground troops and be once again find ourselves suckered into fighting a guerrilla war 6,000 miles from home against an enemy that has home field advantage.

So? Negotiate? Pay ransom? Walk away from an longtime middle eastern ally?

Meh, there's got to be a point where the civilized people on this planet say enough is enough.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bobabode

So? Negotiate? Pay ransom? Walk away from an longtime middle eastern ally?

Meh, there's got to be a point where the civilized people on this planet say enough is enough.

True, but we can't be the ones wanting peace/security more than the people of Iraq and Syria themselves. The Kurds seem to be the only ones who care enough to do something about it.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

True, but we can't be the ones wanting peace/security more than the people of Iraq and Syria themselves. The Kurds seem to be the only ones who care enough to do something about it.

With Turkey doing everything they can to stop them.

Some ally!

John

[merrylander]

The IRAQI soldier can fight but that bonehead al Maliki replaced all the officers we trained with some of his own choosing. When ISIS approached the officers fled leaving the troops leaderless. They are doing a pretty good job ay present.

That town in Syria that is the ISIS HQ should simply be leveled because anyone living there is either an ISIS sympathizer or dead. A little napalm would not hurt.

I suspect that we will be hearing that the four ISIS types in Jordan's death row will be having their sentences carried out soon.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by bobabode

So? Negotiate? Pay ransom? Walk away from an longtime middle eastern ally?

Meh, there's got to be a point where the civilized people on this planet say enough is enough.

The whole reason for this fucking ISIS mess is because we invaded Iraq and took out Saddam. We need to stop going all over the world and sticking our fucking noses in where it doesn't belong. Every time we do it turns into a clusterfuck, but we never learn.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

The whole reason for this fucking ISIS mess is because we invaded Iraq and took out Saddam. We need to stop going all over the world and sticking our fucking noses in where it doesn't belong. Every time we do it turns into a clusterfuck, but we never learn.

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[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

The IRAQI soldier can fight but that bonehead al Maliki replaced all the officers we trained with some of his own choosing. When ISIS approached the officers fled leaving the troops leaderless. They are doing a pretty good job ay present.

At present the most effective fighters engaged with ISIS are the Bader Brigade and other militias composed largely of veterans of Saddam's armed forces (honorable mention to the Kurdish Peshmerga) in Iraq and the Kurdish PKK in Syria. The reconstituted Iraqi army is still pretty useless.

That town in Syria that is the ISIS HQ should simply be leveled because anyone living there is either an ISIS sympathizer or dead. A little napalm would not hurt.

Raqqa. We're pounding the shit out of it already.

I suspect that we will be hearing that the four ISIS types in Jordan's death row will be having their sentences carried out soon.

At least two of them are already dead.

John

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

The whole reason for this fucking ISIS mess is because we invaded Iraq and took out Saddam. We need to stop going all over the world and sticking our fucking noses in where it doesn't belong. Every time we do it turns into a clusterfuck, but we never learn.

Yes, yes and yes.
And I repeat, Islam is not compatible with democracy and never can be unless it accepts the concept of the separation mosque and state. Tall order.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Yes, yes and yes.
And I repeat, Islam is not compatible with democracy and never can be unless it accepts the concept of the separation mosque and state. Tall order.

And for some reason people can't seem to get that point.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

With Turkey doing everything they can to stop them.

Some ally!

John

Turkey seems to want all the Kurds wiped out because they are giving them fits on the Iraq border. We should have left heavy armor and weapons with the Kurds. Then just maybe they could re-establish their homeland of Kurdistan.