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03-31-2015, 11:20 AM
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GOP Indianapolis mayor defies Pence, bans discrimination by Christian businesses receiving city funds.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/g...ng-city-funds/
Legally this may be the only way to do it. I'm not sure how equal access laws, like to housing and other services work. If the bakery's fanatical Christian owners refuse to bake a cake for Adam and Steve, are they in violation of the law? Is there really any action that can be taken outside of a boycott?
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03-31-2015, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ike Bana
GOP Indianapolis mayor defies Pence, bans discrimination by Christian businesses receiving city funds.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/g...ng-city-funds/
Legally this may be the only way to do it. I'm not sure how equal access laws, like to housing and other services work. If the bakery's fanatical Christian owners refuse to bake a cake for Adam and Steve, are they in violation of the law? Is there really any action that can be taken outside of a boycott?
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Maybe but it's blatantly unconstitutional. But then so's the Hobby Lobby decision. The SCOTUS showed their ass on that one so they'd probably uphold the Indiana law too.
Meanwhile, in Arkansas.....
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03-31-2015, 03:07 PM
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Abe you should have let them go.
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03-31-2015, 07:12 PM
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Religious Freedom Bill in Indiana.
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Disgusting conservative dolts.
just awful humans.
Anti-American in spirit.
Off putting.
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03-31-2015, 07:24 PM
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Arkansas too? WTF?
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04-01-2015, 11:17 AM
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I need to say there's been a awful lot of focus on Mike Pence about this thing. I've been as guilty as anybody. But I feel it necessary to remind myself and anybody else who might be listening, that the Indiana legislature authored this bill and overwhelmingly passed it before it ever made it to Pence's desk. The voters of Indiana put these people, or those of similar ideology, in office election after election, and I'll betcha a dollar to a donut that a great majority of them, or somebody else just like them, will be voted in to office once again. So...we have all this outrage spewing out of the people of Indiana. Reckon which people they are? Certainly not the majority who I suspect religiously support their legislature and governor.
Meantime its looking like the state of Indiana will be suffering some significant fiscal consequences for this, and hopefully and rightly so, those consequences will trickle down to the citizens therein as well.
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04-01-2015, 11:33 AM
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I read somewhere that Dems controlled the Indiana legislature and governor's house ten years ago. Hmmm, what's happened since then?
Democrats have five years to get their shit together and take back these state houses and governorships before the next round of gerrymandering after the next census.
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04-01-2015, 12:07 PM
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I read somewhere that Dems controlled the Indiana legislature and governor's house ten years ago. Hmmm, what's happened since then?
Democrats have five years to get their shit together and take back these state houses and governorships before the next round of gerrymandering after the next census.
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I'm afraid I can't blame what this country has become on gerrymandering anymore. Its a game played superbly by both parties. Its an electorate with enough morons in it that there are districts to be gerrymandered. Its more and more a pluralistic culture in this country and it seems to me that more and more Americans are just flat out revolted by it.
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04-01-2015, 12:27 PM
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Arkansas too? WTF?
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Citing input from Walmart (Head office in Arkansas) LBGT members and his son, Governor Hutchinson said he would veto the bill.
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04-01-2015, 12:35 PM
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Is this negative reaction to our more pluralistic culture all that surprising? I think progressive liberals were expecting people to change almost as easily as it was to implement the Great American Society and they're upset about it not working out. There's a fight coming because both sides of this blue/red divide are itching for one. When that fight is over most of the country will accept the reality of a four, not three, basic class structure: upper, middle, working and lower. Do the larger working and lower classes have the wherewithal to form there own party in order that their, and not the propertied class, interests hold the high ground?
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