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Old 06-22-2015, 10:13 PM
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Thanks John, quite fascinating. So here comes more trouble.

'White rights' group leader cited by South Carolina shooter donated to Republicans: reports

Wonder how The Guardian is ahead on the US news!

Cruz, Paul and Santorum are some of the recipients. Bachman too from her prior campaign. Very very interesting indeed. They are only returning or donating the money because this guy was on the killers manifesto methinks.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0P21D020150623
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Old 06-22-2015, 10:33 PM
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States' Rights was originally code for a state's "right" for its citizens to hold slaves. After the Civil War it became about segregation and Jim Crow.
This is how I see it, too.

Perhaps you can sell the Civil War about States' rights.

1. Cool.
2. I'll buy it.

What "right" were they protecting, again?

The right to own humans.

That's not any better...
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:50 PM
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The antebellum states' right was the right of a slave owner not to be restricted as to where in this country (the key word being territory) he could take his property. It was indeed all about the individual's right to own a fellow American, the sovereign state issue was a smokescreen. Given this, the North went to war to preserve our great and beloved country, not to free their fellow Americans.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:52 PM
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Thanks John, quite fascinating. So here comes more trouble.

'White rights' group leader cited by South Carolina shooter donated to Republicans: reports

Wonder how The Guardian is ahead on the US news!

Cruz, Paul and Santorum are some of the recipients. Bachman too from her prior campaign. Very very interesting indeed. They are only returning or donating the money because this guy was on the killers manifesto methinks.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0P21D020150623
Amazingly tone deaf to re-donate these political contributions to the victims fund in Charleston. What the hell is wrong with these pols?
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:56 PM
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WalMart is getting rid of all merchandise with the flag on it.
Well of course they are. They gonna make themselves look like a company that really cares in hopes that even more people will shop there for the other Chinese junk they sell.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:57 PM
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This is how I see it, too.
You're going to get me in even bigger trouble with TJ if you don't stop agreeing with me.
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:45 AM
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Bright will fight the 'Stalinist purge' of the Confederate flag

http://www.goupstate.com/article/201...CLES/150629916

Stalinist Purge!


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Some Spartanburg County lawmakers support removing the Confederate battle flag from the Statehouse grounds, but state Sen. Lee Bright, R-Spartanburg, characterized the movement to remove it and other Confederate monuments as a “Stalinist Purge.”
Compare the Confederate Flag to the Cross!

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People throughout history have misused symbols, and the Confederate battle flag is not an exception, Bright said. Just because a symbol may be abused doesn't mean it should be banned, he said.

Bright said for example he believed that the Ku Klux Klan has abused the symbol of the cross, but there hasn't been a movement to ban all crosses as a result.
Outside agitators!

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Bright said he also believes that outside agitators and the media have latched onto the flag issue creating strife.
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:44 AM
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The Chamber of Commerce is engaged in Stalinist purges?
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Old 06-23-2015, 09:21 AM
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The Chamber of Commerce is engaged in Stalinist purges?
Why do you find that surprising?
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:07 AM
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Governor Haley just announced at a press conf.

Didn't think I could get emotional any more - this one got me.

Thank God she did the right thing.
My worry is that people on the other side of this issue will get emotional also.

I will not be surprised to see blood shed over this. Damn shame.
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