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04-08-2014, 10:39 PM
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De-regulation will lead to environmental responsibility, fairly-compensated safe gratifying full-employment, and safe products, medication, and food for all, universal sustainable prosperity!!!
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There are people that actually believe that shit.
A disturbingly large number of them.
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04-09-2014, 12:29 AM
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There are people that actually believe that shit.
A disturbingly large number of them.
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Well, if you don't enjoy a wonderful life, it's your own fault for not being competitive enough in the labor market. And if the market doesn't want you, you're worthless, so your fate doesn't matter.
For the market is the measure of all things.
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04-09-2014, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Well, if you don't enjoy a wonderful life, it's your own fault for not being competitive enough in the labor market. And if the market doesn't want you, you're worthless, so your fate doesn't matter.
For the market is the measure of all things.
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Channeling Ayn Rand, are we?
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04-09-2014, 07:29 AM
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Channeling Ayn Rand, are we?
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Uh-huh. They deny market-worship, saying 'human thriving' is the ultimate value, but actually only those who 'deserve' to get to thrive, and the 'market,' supposedly, determines what you deserve.
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04-09-2014, 11:45 AM
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Channeling Ayn Rand, are we?
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It really is easy to get into right wing character.
You just turn off the thinking part of your brain and let those raw animal instincts flow.
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07-15-2014, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Well, if you don't enjoy a wonderful life, it's your own fault for not being competitive enough in the labor market. And if the market doesn't want you, you're worthless, so your fate doesn't matter.
For the market is the measure of all things.
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Sadly this is the view of many Americans and per them it's unpatriotic to think otherwise.
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07-15-2014, 06:14 PM
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I love the ones who staunchly defend this crap..........even though they are the ones that are losing.
Personally, I like the idea that it's a form of Stockholm Syndrome. They know they're being screwed, but feel they must show the boss love and appease him with every new humiliation.....or it'll get even worse...............
Beyond that, all I can figure is that too many of us really are dumb enough to think that appeasing unbridled greed actually leads to prosperity for us proles.
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07-16-2014, 07:16 AM
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The one thing the righties do that truly amuses me is when they accuse liberals of being softies and emotional when they are the emotional ones. They are easily triggered by certain code words. Say 'amnesty' and the froth at the mouth. Say 'welfare queen' and you can't shut them up for four hours. Say 'liberal media' and they scream Washington Post, yet take a good look at the OpEd page - Charles Krauthammer, Michael Gerson, Charles Lane, George Will, Kathleen Parker, Ruth Marcus oh yes the token Liberal E.J. Dionne.
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08-03-2020, 10:53 PM
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It worth recalling this story as 45's minions rush to cancel all the regulations they can.
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08-28-2020, 12:01 PM
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People with too much unchecked power always use it corruptly. This means they act selfishly, and pay no heed if their actions are destructive to others. This applies to capitalists, who wield tremendous and generally decisive power in our society. Capitalists control government through their power to invest or to not invest, to open or close workplaces, to expand economic activity or contract it. They in general get the laws they want and veto the ones they don't. It takes exceptional public pressure or necessity to overcome the structural power of capitalists. You weren't taught this in civics class, were you?
The problem is that other institutions with too much unchecked power likewise tend to behave badly. The police are a current example but government in general can go this route. The historic problem has been that a government with enough power to break the grip of the capitalists has become totalitarian and oppressive itself. The need is to balance the powers so each can check the other, so none becomes corrupt.
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