Another Botched Execution

[bobabode]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...ry.html#page=2

Two hours on the table gasping.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by bobabode

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...ry.html#page=2

Two hours on the table gasping.

What's a good way to go? Quick and easy? I say burn them at the stake or the likes. Killing is killing after all. Make it as bad as possible will work as a deterrent will it not?

Either have a death penalty and a method like a guillotine or rope or forget about it and do a life sentence. There is no real humane way to kill after all.



Barney

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Oerets

What's a good way to go? Quick and easy? I say burn them at the stake or the likes.

Using the royal you, than "you" do it. The reason we have all of these contraptions is because no single person really wants the responsibility.

Originally Posted by Oerets

Killing is killing after all.

No, it's not. Why? Because it's not always murder. That said, execution is precisely such.

Originally Posted by Oerets

Make it as bad as possible will work as a deterrent will it not?

It won't, already in evidence.

Originally Posted by Oerets

Either have a death penalty and a method like a guillotine or rope or forget about it and do a life sentence. There is no real humane way to kill after all (emphasis added).

Precisely.

[mpholland]

Just a few highly biased thoughts in the moment

Originally Posted by Zeke

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Originally Posted by Oerets
What's a good way to go? Quick and easy? I say burn them at the stake or the likes.

Using the royal you, than "you" do it. The reason we have all of these contraptions is because no single person really wants the responsibility.

No single representative of the people wants the responsibility. I can assure you that often there are family members who would do the job. I could, and would, be up to the task.

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Originally Posted by Oerets
Killing is killing after all.

No, it's not. Why? Because it's not always murder. That said, execution is precisely such.

So a murderer's life is fair game during commission of the act, up through completion. Once he has finished the act though, his life becomes precious?

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Originally Posted by Oerets
Make it as bad as possible will work as a deterrent will it not?

It won't, already in evidence.

Then figure out another deterrent. I believe it is more of a deterrent than life in prison. Life in prison is no longer a deterrent, nor a punishment. Its only purpose anymore is to protect someone's next "would be" victim. Prison these days is just another place to live, but you are not free to come and go as you please.

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Originally Posted by Oerets
Either have a death penalty and a method like a guillotine or rope or forget about it and do a life sentence. There is no real humane way to kill after all (emphasis added).

Precisely.

Humane doesn't even belong in the same sentence. Sometimes humans aren't humane. It has always been, and always shall be. My wife wanted to view our son's body yesterday for closure. It was suggested she not because the visible wounds and lacerations to his neck and face were so severe that they could not make him presentable. I have had urges to have his killers mother go through the same pain my wife and I are. They come and go. I realize that is not my moral make-up. I don't see any reason that his killer should get 3 hots and a cot for the rest of his life, if he should even be sentenced that long, plus the opportunity to play sports, lift weights, watch television, listen to music, play cards, or any other such pleasures that should allow him to distract his mind from the true reason he is there.

[BlueStreak]

We put down pets humanely thousands of times a day. But, we just can't seem to get it right, when it comes to prisoners.

Why is that, do you suppose?

[nailer]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

We put down pets humanely thousands of times a day. But, we just can't seem to get it right, when it comes to prisoners.

Why is that, do you suppose?

Because it's crime and punishment. Oh yeah, almost forgot - to draw attention.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

We put down pets humanely thousands of times a day. But, we just can't seem to get it right, when it comes to prisoners.

Why is that, do you suppose?

Pretty much similar to having a safe abortion done almost anywhere in the USA now. Opposition has made doing it properly so difficult that improperly prepared folk denied effective means are getting the results one could expect.

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[finnbow]

What is sick to me is the false equivalency of those who say the killer go what he deserved when he writhed in agony for 2 hours because his victims suffered too (the victims' family said exactly that in this case). It misses the point entirely and goes to show how the death penalty here debases us all.

[donquixote99]

No, it debases those who applaud torture as an execution method.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

No, it debases those who applaud torture as an execution method.

Same diff in this instance.