World Government?

[merrylander]

I'm sure he is.

[ebacon]

This thread is a few years old but what the heck.

Yes, there is absolutely a concerted move toward globalism/New World Order. There are now several mainstream books out and the subject is no longer one of conspiracy theorists.

In a nutshell the argument in favor of globalism is that nations that depend on each other will have less incentive to fight.

The leaders are the corporate plutocrats. Big oil, big banking, big entertainment, etc. -- basically organizations that are deemed too big to fail or structurally important.

We'll see how the experiment pans out. We are already seeing stresses with unemployment in light of excessive cheap imports.

Adam Smith outlined problems with free trade in his book The Wealth of Nations (1776). Time will tell if old school wisdom still carries the day.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by ebacon

This thread is a few years old but what the heck.

Yes, there is absolutely a concerted move toward globalism/New World Order. There are now several mainstream books out and the subject is no longer one of conspiracy theorists.

In a nutshell the argument in favor of globalism is that nations that depend on each other will have less incentive to fight.

Works for me. World Wars are kind of a drag.

[BlueStreak]

That's pretty much how I look at it.

[ebacon]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Works for me. World Wars are kind of a drag.

Avoiding World Wars is the selling point. The race condition of achieving and maintaining success is having Keynsian economics make free trade succeed faster than human jealousy makes it fail.

It's like pouring water into a bucket with a hole in it. Global economists are playing a game. The game is filling the bucket of goodness with fake money before the hole of jealousy drains it.

One of the hurdles, maybe the biggest hurdle, is how to value money. The traditional view is that money is a measure and store of human labor. The more modern view is that money is a measure and store of utility, aka usefulness. We will see how it pans out. The US has put faith in information technology being more useful than labor. I'm not convinced that is true in the philosophical and economic sense of the word. My simple position is this -- men would rather have something to do than something to think about.

The new Republican and Democratic parties are convinced that economists have the right answer. As an old school conservative I am not ready to join that ship as both parties furiously row off into uncharted waters.

They paint me as a protectionist.

[bobabode]

Global gov't would neccesitate some protectionism goin' on against dumpers. Maybe they aren't mutually exclusive? Baby blue combat helmets are kind of hip.

[ebacon]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Global gov't would neccesitate some protectionism goin' on against dumpers. Maybe they aren't mutually exclusive? Baby blue combat helmets are kind of hip.

Can you expand on those thoughts?

You know what is going on. Teach our readers.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by ebacon

Can you expand on those thoughts?

You know what is going on. Teach our readers.

I wouldn't go that far! I'm more spitballer than anybody in the know. I assumed you meant protectionist in the traditional sense, protecting our own workforce & businesses from unfair practices by our trading partners. I don't have any particulars but in the E.U. I assume their is some sort of machinery in place to address such issues. In the political arena I would think there would be no admittance without some flavor of democracy. That brings up the issue of how it should go down. Voluntary would be the only correct way. It has to be made advantageous economically to join. Force would never be an option to induce membership... but I would say anything like some world confederation is a long, long way off and would be immensely difficult to manage but the alternative of having a world war every few generations is not something I would want. Nor anyone else I'm sure but we do seem to be always doing it.
The baby blue helmet thing was a friendly poke in the ribs for you Libertarians, meant in jest. The U.N. is a failed experiment like the League of Nations, no real teeth and having a security council with veto power made it a stillborn to my mind. Mind you it still is better than nothing and a step in the right direction, IMO. Like I said spitballin' here cause it really isn't even on the horizon now.

[ebacon]

10-4. You do know what is going on.

Protectionist is protecting our own. Baby blue helmet is the UN.

Many readers need to digest that. They will be surprised how simplistic their leaders think.

[piece-itpete]

Once the tentacles of world government - aka world ogliarchy - reach everywhere there will be no where to flee to.

The entire world will be encased in a system that like all ruling systems will attempt to self perpetuate.

Pete