FAKE NEWS EXPOSED: A Service of PoliticalChat.com

[whell]

Originally Posted by MrPots

I find it curious that the right is so willing to believe Russia is innocent of any wrongdoing and will defend them to the end but will constantly finds fault and suspicion with our own president, even claiming he's not legit.

What does that tell you about the right? Tells me that their claims of "patriot" are bullshit.

Didn't even glance at the article, didja?

As the author of the article might suggest, isn't it curious that Bush was slammed by the left for misreading / misinterpreting intel, but in similar circumstances the left wants to accept the Russia hack info at face value with almost no details provided?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

You Dems really are susceptible to fake news aren't you?

I've never been a Democrat, but unlike you, I recognize fake news. BTW, nobody here has once asserted that voting tallies were hacked, nor has the Times or Post published such an assertion. Swing and a miss.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

BTW, nobody here has once asserted that voting tallies were hacked, nor has the Times or Post published such an assertion. Swing and a miss.

50% of all Democrats believe the Russians hacked in and change the vote counts.

http://www.politicalchat.org/showpos...7&postcount=86

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by whell

Didn't even glance at the article, didja?

As the author of the article might suggest, isn't it curious that Bush was slammed by the left for misreading / misinterpreting intel, but in similar circumstances the left wants to accept the Russia hack info at face value with almost no details provided?

Bush didn't "misread" Intel, he cherry picked and manipulated the intel so it told him exactly what he wanted to hear. The Iraq invasion was planned by Bush and Cheney before Bush even became president.

12 federal agencies have backed this Russian intel.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by finnbow

It takes true Trumpian logic to take an opinion piece that contains the following:

I have no problem believing that Vladimir Putin tried to influence the American election. He's gangster-spook-scum of the lowest order and capable of anything. And Donald Trump, too, was swine enough during the campaign to publicly hope the Russians would disclose Hillary Clinton's emails

as proof positive that articles by the Times and the Post in which the consensus of the intelligence community is correctly reported as fake news. Yet again, you show no capacity whatsoever to grasp what fake news is. You're probably among the 46% of Trump voters who actually believe that Hillary ran a child sex ring out of a pizza joint.

I'd advise against trying to draw conclusions about what whell 'really' thinks. His willingness to use any argument whatsoever to argue with us leaves me knowing only one thing for sure: he really wants to argue with us.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I've never been a Democrat, but unlike you, I recognize fake news. BTW, nobody here has once asserted that voting tallies were hacked, nor has the Times or Post published such an assertion. Swing and a miss.

Then explain the polling results. Let me help you with that. Its the Goebbels effect in full force. Keep repeating the same lie and some folks start to believe it. The headlines in the major rags keep repeating the phrase "hacking the election" or "election hacking" in the headlines. Call it careless or purposeful use of language, but its apparently having an effect. Here are examples:

Obama Strikes Back at Russia for Election Hacking

Obama sanctions Russian officials over election hacking

Russia's election hack is a serious threat to US democracy

FBI, Department of Homeland Security outline conclusion that Russian agencies, military hacked U.S. election

And as for you not being a Democrat, spare me. At best, you an IINO: an Independent in Name Only. As much as you parrot Dem talking points, you're fooling no one.

[whell]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I'd advise against trying to draw conclusions about what whell 'really' thinks. His willingness to use any argument whatsoever to argue with us leaves me knowing only one thing for sure: he really wants to argue with us.

LOL. I'm not arguing with anyone. I simply post facts, link to them and comment on them. Folks like you then respond with lame attempts at insults, rarely commenting on substance. Sorry for invading your echo chamber.

[whell]

Originally Posted by MrPots

12 federal agencies have backed this Russian intel.

Uh, no. The actual number is 17. And while there is agreement that the hacking appears to have been perpetrated by actors in Russia, not all of them agree on the intent of or reason behind the hacks.

The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts.

And...

We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

Believing something is quite a bit different than having proof. Without proof, is there any doubt that our response to this activity has been so mild?

[bobabode]

Thanks for the chuckles Mike. I hope you're wearing yoga pants when you twist yourself up like a pretzel defending Trump and his BFF Putin.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Then explain the polling results. Let me help you with that. Its the Goebbels effect in full force. Keep repeating the same lie and some folks start to believe it. The headlines in the major rags keep repeating the phrase "hacking the election" or "election hacking" in the headlines. Call it careless or purposeful use of language, but its apparently having an effect. Here are examples:

Obama Strikes Back at Russia for Election Hacking

Obama sanctions Russian officials over election hacking

Russia's election hack is a serious threat to US democracy

FBI, Department of Homeland Security outline conclusion that Russian agencies, military hacked U.S. election

And as for you not being a Democrat, spare me. At best, you an IINO: an Independent in Name Only. As much as you parrot Dem talking points, you're fooling no one.

As I said, nobody has said that Russia messed with the voting tallies. That said, the only person who railed continuously about a rigged election was yer boy, der Trumpenfuhrer.