Mass Killing at Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown Conn.

[piece-itpete]

Pat I agree. I think it's an awful whoring out on the medias' part, disgraceful. If I was one of those affected I'd be furious.

Pete

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Boreas

And, for that reason, I haven't watched any of it except on overseas sources. That being said, the President's speech is another matter and the hateful and racist nature of those tweets is inexcusable and unforgivable.

John

Agreed, but I don't think it was necessary for NBC to preempt football for a Presidential speech covered on a bunch of other channels. I've gotten so sick of politicians that I pretty much can't even stand listening to ones that I like/respect/agree with (and there are precious few of those).

[Oerets]

I keep hearing the drum beat of arming the schools now for protection. Ask yourself what has changed in this country to now allow for that to even be a thought? How or what is different from when we were children?

Lets face it the USA is a very violent country. Or at least that is how it is being portrayed in the media. Either we take steps to lessen the violence or get use to the violence.

In this country some parents see little problem with their kids watching something like Saving Private Ryan or playing video games. But lay the law down on those same kids see anything regarding sex! Can't have it both ways ya know if one is an influence to behavior?????




Barney

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Oerets

I keep hearing the drum beat of arming the schools now for protection. Ask yourself what has changed in this country to now allow for that to even be a thought? How or what is different from when we were children?

Lets face it the USA is a very violent country. Or at least that is how it is being portrayed in the media. Either we take steps to lessen the violence or get use to the violence.

In this country some parents see little problem with their kids watching something like Saving Private Ryan or playing video games. But lay the law down on those same kids see anything regarding sex! Can't have it both ways ya know if one is an influence to behavior?????




Barney

What's different is the availability of military type automatic weapons with high capacity magazines. This is very new. Essentially nobody had weapons like this 30 or so years ago. Now millions of people have them and essentially anyone can get one legally.

John

[barbara]

Originally Posted by Boreas

What's different is the availability of military type automatic weapons with high capacity magazines. This is very new. Essentially nobody had weapons like this 30 or so years ago. Now millions of people have them and essentially anyone can get one legally.

John

Exactly.
When I was in school and someone had a beef, they duked it out with their fists in the school yard. Now, with the availability of guns, the school yard fight has escalated to shooting it out.

[piece-itpete]

I'm sorry, but people only go postal when they can get certain guns?

I'd like to mention this again, because nobody commented on it - holding these weapons and bits to what's available on the open market only make them cost more.

Barbara I read an article from a retiring NYC cop 10-15 years ago iirc, he said the same thing about gang warfare too. I've said it before, as society becomes cruder and more crass can violence be far behind?

Pete

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I'm sorry, but people only go postal when they can get certain guns?

I'd like to mention this again, because nobody commented on it - holding these weapons and bits to what's available on the open market only make them cost more.

Barbara I read an article from a retiring NYC cop 10-15 years ago iirc, he said the same thing about gang warfare too. I've said it before, as society becomes cruder and more crass can violence be far behind?

Pete

I did.

John

[barbara]

Pete, so, you think that if weapons were more expensive it would be a part of the solution? Or are you saying it would make the problem worse?

[piece-itpete]

The assault weapons 'ban'? I think it would make it neither better nor worse. Just more expensive.

So target shooting with these amazing (and they are) guns would be only for middle and upperclass people. It would stop nobody determined to use them for evil. See Breivik.

Pete

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I'm sorry, but people only go postal when they can get certain guns?

Pete

No, the availability and subsequent possession of such weapons makes people gone postal even more deadly.
Far more capable of doing far more damage in a shorter period of time.

Do they not?

Regards,
Dave