The Foundation of Christianity

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by Waggs098

True scientific data has only been around for what 150 years? So the scientists say the world has been around for a trillion years or more. That's based on carbon dating studied for a short period of time. Can we rely on that?

Data collection goes back much further than that.

Science is a sub-branch of philosophy, it's origin came about not long after recorded human history starts. It was suppressed by religious people for a long time.

Carbon dating is interesting. Perhaps God used old carbon to create the physical universe. The passage of time is a non-issue for creationists. The Bible says "one thousands years is like a day, and a day like one thousand years" from God's perspective. It says God create the world in seven days. That could have been seven thousand years. It does not say how long ago the world was created. People try to figure that out based on the genealogies of the bible. Many say 4000 years ago. Could have been 7000 years ago.

He tossed in some very old fish fossils, just to help the devil deceive people into believing bullshit like cross species evolution. He has to separate the wheat from the chaff somehow.

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

The age of the universe is thought to be around 13.7 billion years old. Age of Earth about 4.5 billion.

Some scientists claim it's just a AI-style simulation, manifest by means we don't understand yet.

I like string theory. When the seventh string runs out, this hyperspace is going down.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

Data collection goes back much further than that.

Science is a sub-branch of philosophy, it's origin came about not long after recorded human history starts. It was suppressed by religious people for a long time.

Carbon dating is interesting. Perhaps God used old carbon to create the physical universe. The passage of time is a non-issue for creationists. The Bible says "one thousands years is like a day, and a day like one thousand years" from God's perspective. It says God create the world in seven days. That could have been seven thousand years. It does not say how long ago the world was created. People try to figure that out based on the genealogies of the bible. Many say 4000 years ago. Could have been 7000 years ago.

He tossed in some very old fish fossils, just to help the devil deceive people into believing bullshit like cross species evolution. He has to separate the wheat from the chaff somehow.

That makes exactly as much sense as every other explanation of eternal damnation....

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

That makes exactly as much sense as every other explanation of eternal damnation....

The things you do not understand, do not exist.

That quite a personal decree.

I have no such power. I don't know anyone that does.

[donquixote99]

But you believe, therefore things exist. Is that not just as awesome a power?

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

But you believe, therefore things exist. Is that not just as awesome a power?

As I stated; I have no power to will things into existence.

I didn't believe in Christ until I met Socrate's daemons in person. The devil takes on human form, and he walks among us just like ordinary people.

https://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-12.htm

The existence of God was demonstrated to me via empirical observation.

Contact with super-natural beings.

And now you can laugh. I realize you won't believe me. It's not a delusion, or a privilege. It just is what it is.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

The domesticated chicken is of the gallus gallus (red junglefowl) species which is from gallus (junglefowl) genus, of Phasianidae (heavy ground living birds) family, of Galliformes (heavy ground feeding birds) order, of Aves (birds) class. All of these are egg-laying and some of them date back long before the gallus gallus species appeared. The egg undeniably came first because the biological function that is the egg existed long before even birds (Aves) did.

Are you saying that the chicken and its egg are part of a whole?

[watsup1000]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

As I stated; I have no power to will things into existence.

I didn't believe in Christ until I met Socrate's daemons in person. The devil takes on human form, and he walks among us just like ordinary people.

https://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-12.htm

The existence of God was demonstrated to me via empirical observation.

Contact with super-natural beings.

And now you can laugh. I realize you won't believe me. It's not a delusion, or a privilege. It just is what it is.

:crazy

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by watsup1000

:crazy

Plato nailed it in The Republic.

Lucifer is the harbinger of all enlightenment.

[FordGT90]

Originally Posted by nailer

Are you saying that the chicken and its egg are part of a whole?

A fertilized egg containing the DNA of a chicken will become a chicken but an egg by itself is a building block of the animal kingdom.

Originally Posted by BigElCat

Plato nailed it in The Republic.

Lucifer is the harbinger of all enlightenment.

Yeah..."good guy Lucifer" memes. Examples:
"Sees naked, willful thought-slave in the Garden of Eden; teaches critical thinking."
"Sees man starving in the desert; tries to offer him food for forty days."
"God wanted you to live your life in complete ignorance but I foiled His plan with a single conversation; you're welcome."
"Understands human nature; doesn't judge you for being human."
"Was kicked out of heaven by God; hasn't had countless millions slaughtered in his name."
"Gives sentient to humans; blamed for all evil in the world."
"Not a character in the Bible; still most interesting character in the Bible."
"Punishes evildoers in the afterlife; 'bad guy.'"
"Cloths; you're welcome."
"Could write book exposing God's atrocities; God beat him to it."