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Old 01-30-2024, 10:09 AM
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I agree with the first statement but not the second.
Hispanics turned out heavily for Obama in his first presidential run and was to some extent based on his promise of support on immigration.

Obama won with Presidency, Senate and House. However Obama put immigration on the back burner. The next midterm he lost the House!

Eventually Obama achieved the moniker - Deporter inChief.
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Old 01-30-2024, 10:19 AM
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All the islands? The Rio Grande has lots of islands, besides the one they picked for their show....
All they need is one for the show.

Start with the loudspeakers broadcasting a warning in Espanola; Military bombing will commence in T minus 30 minutes.

Don't say who will do the bombing, or who is broadcasting the warning. Sort of like the Nashville bomber without music. None of the Psycho-Ops propaganda, just recommendations to apply for a passport, and directions to the closest, legitimate border crossing.

Military Bombing will commence in T minus 10 minutes.

I'm thinking it should be the Navy, because they could fly a corridor from San Diego to the Gulf. They'd only have to drop two bombs, about 45 minutes apart, and hopefully hit the island each time. Knock those Cartel shanties across the Rio Grande down, with corrugated tin flying through the air.

A huge international uproar would ensue. The investigation would take years, then a congressional committee would convene. An apology would be issued (the Navy chastised), but the planes could fly just north of the Rio Grande a couple of times a day the whole time.

Move the loudspeakers up and down the border as needed. (i figured out how to spell 'border' finally)

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Old 01-30-2024, 10:39 AM
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...The biggest hustler was Obama.
Reached way back for that one did ya'?
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Old 01-31-2024, 10:50 AM
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Reached way back for that one did ya'?
Going back in time, surprisingly the only politician who had done anything substantive on this issue was Reagan.
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Old 01-31-2024, 12:02 PM
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Going back in time, surprisingly the only politician who had done anything substantive on this issue was Reagan.
His legacy, "Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants" actually turned out to be perpetual welcome wagon. In actuality, strict sanctions on employers were stripped out of the eventual bill.

Do you think today's Congress will pass an amnesty bill like Reagan's?
Only difference between Reagan and Trump is Ronnie lied with a smile.
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Old 01-31-2024, 12:06 PM
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Going back in time, surprisingly the only politician who had done anything substantive on this issue was Reagan.
Yes, black-baiting was in his toolkit, but not wetback baiting, oddly enough.

You need the President, the House, and the Senate all agreeing the time is now. Standard political wisdom was there were no votes in this issue, just big chances to pass people off. Took Trump to decide that was useful.
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Old 01-31-2024, 12:09 PM
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Going back in time, surprisingly the only politician who had done anything substantive on this issue was Reagan.
Reagan was quite vague about border issues. GHW Bush started the NAFTA corridor. GW Bush started the DHS, the defenders of the corridor.

We're still waiting for the attack from space aliens, the one that will delay Armageddon (according to Reagan).
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Old 01-31-2024, 12:25 PM
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Try saying it slowly but in parts.


The ability to roll off words rapidly is an innate skill. One of the reasons rappers are so rewarded. Eminem, the rapper, comes to mind.
I tried. I tried holding my tongue with my fingers (to no avail).

It's imperative that you wissen to me now.
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Old 01-31-2024, 12:44 PM
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His legacy, "Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants" actually turned out to be perpetual welcome wagon. In actuality, strict sanctions on employers were stripped out of the eventual bill.

Do you think today's Congress will pass an amnesty bill like Reagan's?
Only difference between Reagan and Trump is Ronnie lied with a smile.
Giving amnesty to nearly 3 million illegals is substantive.

You say you are a legal immigrant so I believe you understand the benefits which legality implies.
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Old 01-31-2024, 12:48 PM
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Meanwhile...this is either propaganda, or the real deal

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CpnIz0WOk2Y

It's presented by the Arizona border patrol (or so it's claimed), it's supposedly drug cartel guys cruising around Phoenix AZ with a .50 BMG (5 shot) pointed out the windshield.

Where is Pershing (or the Ghost of Pershing) when we need him ? Knock these guys out.

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