Obama's EPA not just killing coal...

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Won't find any in Lake Michigan either.

Heavy metal tainted fish? You're joking, right?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

If you knew what you were talking about, you'd be dangerous. The Badger doesn't run in cold weather because tourism goes down in the fall and then the lake freezes over. Can't run on the ice.

Now, with the EPA pushing them, they may not be able to operate the ship next spring.

The Badger was built with the ability to operate in ice. If it can't any more it's yet another reason to scrap it.

From Wikipedia:

"The Badger was constructed as a rail car ferry in 1952–53 by the Christy Corporation of Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin,[3] along with her twin sister the SS Spartan (named after the mascot of Michigan State University) with a reinforced hull for ice-breaking. She was originally used to carry railroad cars, passengers and automobiles between the two sides of the lake all year long. Today the ferry connects the eastern and western segments of U.S. Route 10 in the two cities from May to October."

And I posted this before but I guess it was too difficult for you.

"But summer's groups of excited children and nostalgic adults are gone, and only a fraction of the usual crowds make each trip. VIP passengers these days are the massive wind turbine parts being shipped from Wisconsin."

Your tactic of an obnoxious style to mask a lack of substance doesn't work, whell. Everyone here has been onto you for years. If you had any capacity for honesty you might be a little on the dangerous side yourself.

John

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

Here's a greeting for you from Bush II:

Aren't you just a little bit embarrassed by your incapacity for any sort of response beyond this schoolyard nonsense?

No, probably not.

John

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Heavy metal tainted fish? You're joking, right?

Joking, no. Lying, yes. He expects you to fall for it too, because he's smarter than any soci@list liberal greenie.

John

[ebacon]

Here are the facts on the Badger case:

http://www.epa.gov/r5water/npdestek/badger/

Anyone know the rest of the story? At first glance it appears that the Badger is applying to the EPA to be regulated as a point source emitter similar to a power plant. I don't know the underlying rules but my guess is that point source emitters are allowed greater particulate emissions than ships.

Beuller? Beuller? Anybody?

Boreas will take a swing at it.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by ebacon

Here are the facts on the Badger case:

http://www.epa.gov/r5water/npdestek/badger/

Anyone know the rest of the story? At first glance it appears that the Badger is applying to the EPA to be regulated as a point source emitter similar to a power plant. I don't know the underlying rules but my guess is that point source emitters are allowed greater particulate emissions than ships.

Beuller? Beuller? Anybody?

Boreas will take a swing at it.

Finn may be the better choice for tackling this, bein' a injineer 'n'all.

Plus, I'm too busy licking my wounds after being thrashed by whelldo.

Gotta walk the dog. See y'all junkies later.

John

[ebacon]

Have fun. Bring the pooper scooper. Republicans are watching yew.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

And I posted this before but I guess it was too difficult for you.

"But summer's groups of excited children and nostalgic adults are gone, and only a fraction of the usual crowds make each trip. VIP passengers these days are the massive wind turbine parts being shipped from Wisconsin."

Your tactic of an obnoxious style to mask a lack of substance doesn't work, whell. Everyone here has been onto you for years. If you had any capacity for honesty you might be a little on the dangerous side yourself.

John

Try again, Johnny boy. Summer tourism ends around here after Labor Day. The Badger has plenty of passengers to operate profitably from Memorial Day to Labor Day. After that, not so much. That's what that passage means. If you read the whole article, particular the prior paragraph, you might have figured that out all by yourself.

That lack of substance is in your responses to my posts.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Aren't you just a little bit embarrassed by your incapacity for any sort of response beyond this schoolyard nonsense?

No, probably not.

John

Just trying to communicate to you at a level you'll comprehend.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by ebacon

Here are the facts on the Badger case:

http://www.epa.gov/r5water/npdestek/badger/

Anyone know the rest of the story? At first glance it appears that the Badger is applying to the EPA to be regulated as a point source emitter similar to a power plant. I don't know the underlying rules but my guess is that point source emitters are allowed greater particulate emissions than ships.

Beuller? Beuller? Anybody?

Boreas will take a swing at it.

From the link, it seems to me that the EPA is scrupulously following the Administrative Procedures Act in their rulemaking/enforcement on this issue. Accordingly, the ferry company will have ample opportunity to adjudicate their claims vs. the national interest for pollution control.

Whell - This has nothing to do with Obama being anti-coal. This has to do with the public interest in controlling the discharge of poisons into public waterways. I have been involved in a great deal of Federal rulemaking with 3 agencies. Whether you believe it or not, such rulemaking is not an easy affair and the regulated industry has ample opportunity to make their case and tailor the rules to ensure their ability to comply, just as the public has the ability to have their concerns heard.

As is commonly the case, the reporter who wrote this article has little to no experience with the Federal rulemaking and rule enforcement. They just wanted to jerk your chain. It seems they succeeded.