23 charged with terrorism in Atlanta ‘Cop City’ protest

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Meanwhile, just last night Tucker Carlson spent his show again trying to portray the Jan. 6 insurrection (in which over 1,000 people have been arrested) as peaceful and supported by the Capitol Police.

What this teaches us is that conservatives believe that criminal activity is domestic terrorism if it involves liberal causes, but it's normal, patriotic tourist activity if perpetrated by Republicans and investigation thereof is treasonous.

Let me guess: you didn't actually watch Carlson's report. (If you didn't, you're not alone. I didn't see it either). You just read what someone else said about it. Is that right?

I know you would probably have some retort like: "I wouldn't piss on Carlson if he was on fire, much less watch his show or anything on Fox News."

While I didn't watch his show, the video elements are available to view. There is a compelling counter-story to be considered. It is even possible to consider it if you're willing to:

- drop the preconception and Dem/media narrative that Jan 6th was an "insurrection". I know, that's a lot to ask of this group.
- assume that neither the Dems nor Repubs are going to provide the objective facts of what actually occurred on Jan 6th. Both will try to shape the narrative about that day for their own purposes.
- No question, folks who entered the Capital building that day should not have been there. However, when the protesters did enter the building, why were there Capitol Police shown on video waving them forward into the building?
- If it was an insurrection, then why did the vast majority of individuals who entered the Capital armed with nothing more dangerous than a cell phone?
- Why are the Capital Police seen escorting protestors around the building - particularly the bull horn hat guy - and not restraining, detaining or arresting them?

I don't know the answers to all of these questions. They do, however, run counter to the narratives that we've heard and seen for 2 years. The additional video provides some interesting context not present in the video clips we've seen ad nauseum since Jan 6th 2020.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Sez the idjit who posts under his real name.

...which anyone can look up on LinkedIn.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Let me guess: you didn't actually watch Carlson's report. (If you didn't, you're not alone. I didn't see it either). You just read what someone else said about it. Is that right?

I know you would probably have some retort like: "I wouldn't piss on Carlson if he was on fire, much less watch his show or anything on Fox News."

While I didn't watch his show, the video elements are available to view. There is a compelling counter-story to be considered. It is even possible to consider it if you're willing to:

- drop the preconception and Dem/media narrative that Jan 6th was an "insurrection". I know, that's a lot to ask of this group.
- assume that neither the Dems nor Repubs are going to provide the objective facts of what actually occurred on Jan 6th. Both will try to shape the narrative about that day for their own purposes.
- No question, folks who entered the Capital building that day should not have been there. However, when the protesters did enter the building, why were there Capitol Police shown on video waving them forward into the building?
- If it was an insurrection, then why did the vast majority of individuals who entered the Capital armed with nothing more dangerous than a cell phone?
- Why are the Capital Police seen escorting protestors around the building - particularly the bull horn hat guy - and not restraining, detaining or arresting them?

I don't know the answers to all of these questions. They do, however, run counter to the narratives that we've heard and seen for years. The additional video provides some interesting context not present in the video clips we've seen ad nauseum since Jan 6th 2020.

From whataboutism to projection to just asking questions - the trifecta of bad faith conservative discourse. Personally, I am content to let the court proceedings from J6 trials (and the 500 convictions thus far), sworn testimony of Trump staff to the J6 committee, and my own two eyes (I was glued to the TV all day on Jan 6) tell the story of that day. I do not need an admitted liar like Carlson to falsely characterize it for me.

What's puzzling is that you frequently rail against taking things out of context. Carlson's show from last night might well represent the absolute epitome of this practice. He extracted a few select snippets from 44,000 hours of footage of the Capitol riots to support his concocted story about how peaceful and respectful the MAGAMorons were that day. Even though you claim not to have watched it, the message sure seems to have resonated with you.

[RickeyM]

whell you may not have seen the show but I'm sure you've seen Tuckers highlights and are overjoyed that it's reinforced the narrative you choose to believe. On this board you've got as much credibility as Carlson. I had a much longer post but I deleted most of it. You and your bullshit ain't worth the bandwidth.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by finnbow

From whataboutism to projection to just asking questions - the trifecta of bad faith conservative discourse. Personally, I am content to let the court proceedings from J6 trials ( and the 500 convictions thus far) and my own two eyes (I was glued to the TV all day on Jan 6) tell the story of that day. I do not need an admitted liar like Carlson to falsely characterize it for me.

He should be ignored. He's just doing his usual trolling for his personal entertainment. The last paragraph reads like it came right out of Fucker Carlson's mouth.

[Oerets]

This needs go be asked seriously, is why there seems to be a drive to militarize the police from one side? The need now?

What has changed in our country to warrant these steps?

Looking foreword, planning ahead?

Planning for a future where we are partitioned? Segregated by race, ethnic, religious and the biggie....... political parties!


Becoming a country like Israel, South Africa, China, Russia..... Having whole populations in camps.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by finnbow

From whataboutism to projection to just asking questions - the trifecta of bad faith conservative discourse. Personally, I am content to let the court proceedings from J6 trials (and the 500 convictions thus far), sworn testimony of Trump staff to the J6 committee, and my own two eyes (I was glued to the TV all day on Jan 6) tell the story of that day. I do not need an admitted liar like Carlson to falsely characterize it for me.

What's puzzling is that you frequently rail against taking things out of context. Carlson's show from last night might well represent the absolute epitome of this practice. He extracted a few select snippets from 44,000 hours of footage of the Capitol riots to support his concocted story about how peaceful and respectful the MAGAMorons were that day. Even though you claim not to have watched it, the message sure seems to have resonated with you.

Whell has 'watched' or 'not watched' and 'believes' or 'doesn't believe' whatever best serves his trolling purposes of the second. No such testimony can be taken to have any strict relationship to his actual behavior or beliefs. He is here to troll us, and only to troll us. It's his way of striking back!

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Whell has 'watched' or 'not watched' and 'believes' or 'doesn't believe' whatever best serves his trolling purposes of the second. No such testimony can be taken to have any strict relationship to his actual behavior or beliefs. He is here to troll us, and only to troll us. It's his way of striking back!

and finnbow had to go and mention that Fucker Carlson propaganda piece I think he about made w****'s day when he saw that

[Rajoo]

Here is my take on this.

Nancy was throwing a consolation party for Trump's supporters and to make it a fun event, she encourages them to wear costumes. Sadly the party got out of hand when they found out the Trump was not invited and they proceeded to trash the place. Nancy called 911 and no one answered because its was a day off for the Capitol Police. In desperation she called the White House to ask Trump to come over, but Trump was busy packing the classified documents for his trip to Florida, so he said no can do.

So in the end who caused the storming of the Capitol? Nancy for throwing her party.

Why did the place the trashed? Capitol Police were off duty that day.

See this was all a big misunderstanding form a party gone wild.

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Sez the idjit who posts under his real name.

I wasn't about revealing my name...