The US Census Under Trump

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Waggs098

I can only read the headline since I don't subscribe but are you saying undocumented people should be included in the census and if so why?

How many grades did you finish? Just curious.

Hint - It's in the Constitution.

[Chicks]

Here Waggs, plenty of free classes at top universities via Coursera. Go, learn, find out what it’s like to be educated, vs spouting worthless, uneducated opinions.

https://www.coursera.org/courses?query=constitution

[donquixote99]

Apportioning representatives:

1. Get the popullation numbers for each state, and the total population number, from the census.

2. For each state, figure what percentage their population is of the total. For example, if the total is 320 million, and Virginia has 10 million, then 10 million divided by 320 million is .03125, or 3.125%. (That was just a number out of the air for Virginia, don't know what it is really without looking it up....)

3. There are 425 congressional seats. We just firgured out that Virginia is entitled to 3.125% of them. So .03125 * 425 = 13.28 Virginia would get 13 seats.

4. repeat for all the states.

Note: it actually a bit more complicated than this, because each state gets a minimum of 1 seat, even if their population is very small. Giving those states 1 each leaves fewer seats for the rest to divide up. But what I said above is the basic idea.

Taxes: don't know of any taxes in modern times that are apportioned based on population. But grants FROM the Federal government to the states are. There is money for unemployment, for roads, for lots of things. So it a state misses getting some people counted, that costs them money.

[Waggs098]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Apportioning representatives:

1. Get the popullation numbers for each state, and the total population number, from the census.

2. For each state, figure what percentage their population is of the total. For example, if the total is 320 million, and Virginia has 10 million, then 10 million divided by 320 million is .03125, or 3.125%. (That was just a number out of the air for Virginia, don't know what it is really without looking it up....)

3. There are 425 congressional seats. We just firgured out that Virginia is entitled to 3.125% of them. So .03125 * 425 = 13.28 Virginia would get 13 seats.

4. repeat for all the states.

Note: it actually a bit more complicated than this, because each state gets a minimum of 1 seat, even if their population is very small. Giving those states 1 each leaves fewer seats for the rest to divide up. But what I said above is the basic idea.

Taxes: don't know of any taxes in modern times that are apportioned based on population. But grants FROM the Federal government to the states are. There is money for unemployment, for roads, for lots of things. So it a state misses getting some people counted, that costs them money.

So do you think illegal immigrants should be able to to help decide how many representatives a state has or how many tax dollars they get?

[Waggs098]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Here Waggs, plenty of free classes at top universities via Coursera. Go, learn, find out what it’s like to be educated, vs spouting worthless, uneducated opinions.

https://www.coursera.org/courses?query=constitution

I'm not an uneducated fool. I ask certain questions to get an idea where the other poster is coming from. Obviously you and Bob can't understand that.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Waggs098

So do you think illegal immigrants should be able to to help decide how many representatives a state has or how many tax dollars they get?

Yes. The reasons have been explained to you ad nauseum. You simply don't want to accept the answer, due to your racism and hatred of "the other". Sad little Trumpkin you are.

[Waggs098]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Yes. The reasons have been explained to you ad nauseum. You simply don't want to accept the answer, due to your racism and hatred of "the other". Sad little Trumpkin you are.

So based on that all states should become sanctuary states, take as many illegals in as possible to raise the population to get as many representative votes as possible. Then that state has more power in presidential elections even though the illegals can't even voice their opinion in the poles. So in essence the illegals are just being used for more state power.

See where I'm going with this?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Waggs098

So do you think illegal immigrants should be able to to help decide how many representatives a state has or how many tax dollars they get?

Are they persons?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Waggs098

So based on that all states should become sanctuary states, take as many illegals in as possible to raise the population to get as many representative votes as possible. Then that state has more power in presidential elections even though the illegals can't even voice their opinion in the poles. So in essence the illegals are just being used for more state power.

See where I'm going with this?

I'd say sanctuary cities are just trying to be humane in the face of an inhumane, impossible immigration system. Thinking the population effect is the point is just paranoid.

The immigration system should be fixed.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Waggs098

See where I'm going with this?

Yes, you're following Hitler straight to hell.